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- December 10, 2010 at 9:39 am #46862
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[polldaddy poll=4204719]December 10, 2010 at 11:19 am #74235AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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December 10, 2010 at 11:22 am #74236AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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wow this paper would have taken everybody for a suprise.There was hardly any calculations in sec a other than abc and absorption costing…..
sec b contained eva and some babyish ratios……
Overall the paper was fair but pretty lenghty….Looks like the new examiner has stamped the paper with his own syle. Basically he’s not interested in calculations as he has mentioned in his examiners approach…..
I would love to see the exam pass rates under this approach…..
Many students today were shocked with massive theory and analysing bits of this paper….December 10, 2010 at 11:35 am #74237AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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A fair paper. less emphasis on calculation and reflect the new examiner’s style~
December 10, 2010 at 1:09 pm #74238AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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sad sitting…unexpected hard…
December 10, 2010 at 1:35 pm #74239AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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A fair paper indeed, with much to write(my fingers are still aching!).
I did not like the last part of question 1.. Other than that, I believe to have done fairly well.
Bring on Feb 22 so that I can finally be over with ACCA!
December 10, 2010 at 2:16 pm #74240AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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I’m pretty certain I’ve f***** this one right up! This paper was TOTALLY different from previous papers and I know if you have learnt everything then that shouldn’t really be an issue but I’m sure the BPP taught course focus is driven by past papers and from my memeory we only really covered about a third of the paper.
I was hoping that most pepople felt the same so that the marking would be more lenient, but it appears that most people on here found it to be OK, so seems like there is a good chance of me faling.
December 10, 2010 at 2:27 pm #74241l am suprised that most people said the paper is fair. Actually it is difficult the only calculation was ABC and absorption . The new examiner would ‘kill us’ l hope for a marginal pass or ???? my hope to qualify is 50:50
December 10, 2010 at 2:43 pm #74242H O R R I B L E
December 10, 2010 at 2:59 pm #74243AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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First part of the question was really unique. I am wondering about the examiner…….what would he give in P3 then………
December 10, 2010 at 3:04 pm #74245AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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Reasonably ok but the first time I have ever used more than one answer booklet – really lengthy.
December 10, 2010 at 3:10 pm #74246AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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i am really pissed at the a** … i got really confused with the ABC question ….WHAT was production cost ??? i wasn sure between the total cost or the Direct cost???? so i wasted time there ….and that was it for me …pressure which lead to substandard answer in section B …..
quite pissed that NONE of the predictions came true ….BPP …FTC and Opentuition ….
i feel that P5 is toooo lengthy course …and tooo broad …..it difficult to memorise everything …my head is hurting!
December 10, 2010 at 3:11 pm #74247AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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very lengthy and not what i expected at all, totally agree with ‘khadkaroshan’ very p3 – not holding out much hope to be honest.
Think its a bit unfair to have revision from one examiner that everyone does then an exam written by someone else that is so totally different.
I have alreday left this as feebcak on Acca website, think others should too !
December 10, 2010 at 3:22 pm #74248AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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Worst P5 paper ever seen! I practiced every single question from the revision kit and past exam papers only for questions like todays to come up which were a total shock. The exam focused on areas which have never even been mentioned previously.
Was hoping for a pass, doubt thats possible now!December 10, 2010 at 3:22 pm #74249I am surprised that I found it ok, mainly because I couldn’t do the calculations so the lack of them was to my advantage. Thought some of the wordings of the questions were really confusing and I completey BOMBED 2a, bye bye 15 marks but other than that I hope I was actually answering the questions correctly.
I anticipated it going a hell of a lot worse!
December 10, 2010 at 3:31 pm #74250My hopes for a successful pass and promotion melted like a snowball( I wish the examiner had more precisely indicated what to expect. The only guys who felt comfortable in our centre were preparing using ATC books, that`s all I know. I hope for better luck in summer.
December 10, 2010 at 3:34 pm #74251AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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Guys i’m really sorry if some of you feel like you’ve done terribly bad but you should be mindful that this paper is an advanced version of paper f5 and you can’t expect the paper to be full of calculations specially when the new examinor has indicated himself that there will be less calculations and more reasoning.
Anyway, its done and dusted now……so stick it in the pigeon hole and focus on your other papers to come.
all the bestDecember 10, 2010 at 3:35 pm #74252AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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Am I the only one who was completely floored by Q1?
December 10, 2010 at 3:55 pm #74253AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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the wordingh in q1 was general at best, monitoring and buildingh etc..i took the approach to use csfs from both building block and bal scorecard, monitoring being profit, competitiveness etc, and building being innovation, interna processing improvement, felxibility, resource and cost utilisation etc…
i think he wanted the whole paper to link together and thus never spelt out what he wanted in the questions…i think if you attempt everything you cant go wrong, especially with theory
December 10, 2010 at 4:06 pm #74254AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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all now to do is to pray for yourself……….just pray…….i started praying….
December 10, 2010 at 4:17 pm #74255the paper was crazy!!!
December 10, 2010 at 4:21 pm #74256AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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I think that the things u have said were pure theory and he was more after csf in the movie indutsry, like Warner Bross for example. It had a massive revenue, 18m per production. I thought he was after PI relevant to the industry. Movie ratings, I thought who r most of the costs spend, on the actors salaries ..so I went in that direction.
Well fingeres crossed all, it was unexpected and challenging paper. Wld love to look at the questions now, all together there were not that hard. But very unexpecting!December 10, 2010 at 4:23 pm #74257yes Q1 i just could not think of PI’s for the “increase customer satisaction”, i ended up with surveying customers leaving cinema, and complaint level on website (rubbish).
never ever heard of “building/monitoring”. i prsume building meant building the company thru mkt share/mkt growth so i wrote about increasing being more attuned to customer tatstes and mkt share thru diversifying into new film genres etc? waffle. monioring being control activities?? could be way off..
i said analysing sales and cosy figures for profitabilty which was a v limited answer too.
Q2 – made a mess of the ABC calc, couldnt work ouw what to do with admin of prod, so costs were way off. did ok on why beyond buget would be good for the comp i think : non stdised product, quality differentiator etc so absoroption costing is not suitable…etc
Beyond Budgeting was ok too.Q3. EVA – calc was v basic, i thought i was doing something wrong it was so straight forward.
take the profit add back interest, work out WACC and cap emp and bingo. 3 mins work.said EPS was based on accounting profits and these can be manipulated and Share price is volatile and based on lots of factors outside comp contol so not a great measure.
VBM – all i said was a focus on value added activies, and get rid of non added value etc..went thru examples of how it would help the comp.
Q4. Z scores / Failure
this was fine too, qualitative/quantitaive was ok, analyse the calcualtion given was ok too. just talked about z score failing in 2 of 3 years, that z scores are all called with TA in the denomiator, when TA increased rapidly the Z score will fall.
i said it doesnt take into a/c the future revenue generation potential of the comp as they have just invested in new machies etc.. (not sure how right i am). talked about gearing and WC too here.over all Q1/Q2 v poor maybe 25/60, hoping for 25/40 in other 2 Q’s
fingers crossed for that, its going to be a tight one.December 10, 2010 at 4:35 pm #74258i dont mind the examiner putting his own style on the paper, but VBM for 8%?
CSF/PI’s – 15% ? big marks for v specific (small) parts of the course. it was a dirty paper, i felt like i could have got as much marks without studying than i did with all the hrs i put in..no MIS, no Strategic mgt accouting, no public sectot/private sector, no transfer pricing …..i felt like this was a v theoretical exam. this is supposed to be a practical paper. Not anymore. i ended up waffling off the top of my head. horrible
December 10, 2010 at 4:42 pm #74259AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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Apparently, the new examiner is a horriable person. he just doesn’t want us to have a nice Xmas. I did a lot of question and thought i prepared very well, however….i still have nothing more to say in the exams.
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