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- December 14, 2010 at 10:01 pm #74902
did anyone else do Q2 and Q4? Q3 just looked like so much text to read!!
i had hoped pensions would come up so when i saw it in Q4 that made up my mind to do that one even though it was only for 5 or 6 marks.Q4c What did you put about the R+D? I could only think to say that it should be expensed in the year it occurs. dont think that is right
December 14, 2010 at 10:25 pm #74903AnonymousInactive- Topics: 5
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albax694: research expenses must be expensed, development expenses must be capitalized if there are met 6 criterias: PIRATE.
December 14, 2010 at 10:40 pm #74904AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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I had made a mistake by writing with attempting the paper with blue pen. Is any body tell me is this mistake will have any impact on my marks / result
December 14, 2010 at 10:42 pm #74905AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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I think research and development is given to calculate the amortization cost of Intangible assets and adjust in Operating activities.
December 15, 2010 at 1:14 am #74906AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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I knowdelepment cost must be capitalised, I think I capilised the Research cost as well, oops. I made a huge mistake by saying the Financial Instruments for SMEs all are measured at FV–should be Amortised cost. Couldn’t sleep at all by such a HUGE mistake.
December 15, 2010 at 1:22 am #74907AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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i classed the legal cost of 3a as contigent liability, not provision as measurement wasnt relaible, completely mucked up deferred tax treatment in cashflow.
sme threw me a bit and completely avoided itDecember 15, 2010 at 2:51 am #74908AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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This paper was a whole lot fairer than June’s. I was wondering why the pilot paper featured cash flows but not yet examined. Hope to pass as this is my final paper. Hope we did well. Enjoy the holidays and let February take care of itself.
December 15, 2010 at 5:43 am #74909AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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I did the Cash Flow question quite nicely. Did Q2 & 3 in section B, didn’t even touch SME question 😛
All in all, it was a fair paper, and I hope to pass it in 50s, if not in 60s 🙁
December 15, 2010 at 5:45 am #74910AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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Question: Were the franchise rights in Q3 (c) suffering from impairment???
December 15, 2010 at 8:02 am #74911AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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@albax694 said:
did anyone else do Q2 and Q4? Q3 just looked like so much text to read!!
i had hoped pensions would come up so when i saw it in Q4 that made up my mind to do that one even though it was only for 5 or 6 marks.Q4c What did you put about the R+D? I could only think to say that it should be expensed in the year it occurs. dont think that is right
For RnD SME are allowed to expense out in the year in which they occur, development cost are not required to be capitalized as per IFRS for SME.
December 15, 2010 at 9:05 am #74912AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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I did Q2,it seem short & easy for share base payment, but is nothing much to write.
Q4c i have treated Development cost as expenses under IFRS for SMEs.December 15, 2010 at 9:38 am #74913althought i entered the exam hall wit no confidence.The paper seemed ok.Wish i get atleast 50
December 15, 2010 at 11:41 am #74914AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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what was question 3 about???
where company had not significant influence and majority shareholders were director of the same company which also had 19.9% holding, there were transaction between co’s.. i defined it under IAS 24 as company were under common control of director who were also the directors of company which had 19.9%,,, iam lit bit sure that this question includes the discussion of ias 24 and ias 27 as well… not absolutely sure…..
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December 15, 2010 at 11:55 am #74915AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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what was question 3 about???
where company had not significant influence and majority shareholders were director of the same company which also had 19.9% holding, there were transaction between co’s.. i defined it under IAS 24 as company were under common control of director who were also the directors of company which had 19.9%,,, iam lit bit sure that this question includes the discussion of ias 24 and ias 27 as well… not absolutely sure…..
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December 15, 2010 at 11:55 am #74916AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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what was question 3 about???
where company had not significant influence and majority shareholders were director of the same company which also had 19.9% holding, there were transaction between co’s.. i defined it under IAS 24 as company were under common control of director who were also the directors of company which had 19.9%,,, iam lit bit sure that this question includes the discussion of ias 24 and ias 27 as well… not absolutely sure…..
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December 15, 2010 at 1:45 pm #74917AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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Manair was definitely an Associate to be accounted for under IAS 28 as the board composition was 20% even though the voting powers were 19.9% in addition there were significant transactions between the two companies. The sale of computer software and also where consultants were sent over to advise Manair’s Board. This proves that there was significvant influence due to the fact that there was the power by the company to assist in the financial and operating policies of Manair.
December 15, 2010 at 4:50 pm #74918December 15, 2010 at 5:19 pm #74920How did you answer the last section of Q4, the 9 mark question?
December 15, 2010 at 7:40 pm #74922AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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I have not written much on the last part of the Q 4; completaly forgot UKGAAP, hoped to get back to it at the end but did not have time. I have answered well the first part which was worth 15 points, so decided it was worth taking risk.
December 15, 2010 at 8:01 pm #74923AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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Somebody asked about direct method; I think it is more useful in manufacturing industry as it is relevant to expenditure categorized by nature(labour, materials, etc) and not by function. I wrote that suppling natural recourses has not much to do with manufacturing, hence indirect method is more acceptable. Besides, I think sth as free cash flow, deriving from that method is often used as adjusted profit for more precise ROCE.On the other hand, indirect method is more flexible and subjective, giving more freedom in categorizing expenses. And as the scenario indicated the directors really needed” freedom of speech ” to show a loan as an income! And to cover all angles, I wrote that it seemed they saw the contract as an asset while its obligations and benefits are in balance. But then again, I may be complately wrong!
December 15, 2010 at 9:31 pm #74924AnonymousInactive- Topics: 1
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P2 was never going to be easy, the syllabus is huge. Can’t judge how it went, hope I did enough to get 50. Went to classes, prepared well, but don’t feel too confident. At least we can all relax now… Good luck everyone, hope we all get good news in February! Merry Christmas
December 16, 2010 at 4:59 am #74925AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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Open Tuition’s predictions for Q1 and Q4 were spot on! It was a fair paper but I think I should have been more prepared. hoping for a 50 at the least. Thank you Open Tuition!
December 16, 2010 at 10:11 am #74926AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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@sohailsaeed said:
I had made a mistake by writing with attempting the paper with blue pen. Is any body tell me is this mistake will have any impact on my marks / resultDon’t worry too much about that. I did that for F8 Audit in June so i phoned up the ACCA and they told me that my paper will be marked manually and that i wont be penalised.I passed the paper with 60 %.
Its early days yet for the electronic marking/scanning system so i think they will be a bit lenient for now.
December 16, 2010 at 11:38 am #74927Hi , I found Q.1 technical but try to cover all the points Q.2 was good everything on share based payments , Q.3 (b) and (C) was bit complicated . I think I done 50/50 let see .. Good luck P2 members
December 16, 2010 at 12:33 pm #74928AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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Nearly 65 marks for writing in p2 . I didn’t expect that. but overall expecting to pass :))
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