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- December 9, 2010 at 5:06 pm #73863
I went first for all written parts in questions… to get some extra easy points…but then… Q4 eh … there was a problem:(
see u … F7 is waiting for meDecember 9, 2010 at 5:17 pm #73864Any Idea on what q2a was all about
December 9, 2010 at 5:23 pm #73865December 9, 2010 at 5:29 pm #73866AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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For Q 1, was it mentioned that the WAC cost of capital was in nominal terms?? I thought it was the after tax cost of 10%? I dont remember it saying nominal… Can anyone clarify?
December 9, 2010 at 5:29 pm #73867I think it was a discussion on whether the company could/should raise the money via debt or equity. It was a discussion question that needed gearing and interest cover ratios as well as EPS and dividend information to answer it well. IMO.
December 9, 2010 at 5:34 pm #73868AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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Except Q2 rest of questions are straight forward n easy…inshallah will pass
December 9, 2010 at 5:40 pm #73869December 9, 2010 at 5:41 pm #73870AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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it was ok i guess, got a negative npv in question 1 though but overall questions 1 and 4 was ok . question 3 i pulled through, question 2 (b and c) ok part a OMG i wrote smeting dont no if it was correct should get a mark for writing nd not boring d examiner
December 9, 2010 at 5:49 pm #73871AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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oh my god – A LOT of writing!! felt like my arm was going to break..
for Q2 – did anyone else write that they should first use their retained earnings to reduce the overdraft?? or was I talking complete rubbish..??
December 9, 2010 at 5:52 pm #73872@carolecreg said:
oh my god – A LOT of writing!! felt like my arm was going to break..for Q2 – did anyone else write that they should first use their retained earnings to reduce the overdraft?? or was I talking complete rubbish..??
BS I’m afraid RE aren’t cash, so can’t be used in this manner. I think the question stated that the current assets didn’t include a cash balance.
December 9, 2010 at 5:58 pm #73873AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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damn!!! yep – I think it did say that.. gutted!!!! hope I waffled enough to pick up marks elsewhere then..
thanks!! πDecember 9, 2010 at 6:03 pm #73874AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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q1- npv was (-700+) something. cost of capital 12.* something.
q2- (a)discussion part abt takeover, (b)bond interest rate- yield curve normal and inverse, (c)effiency weak semi strong and strong.
q3- eoq 5000units, there was saving using eoq.
q4- value of company $755m. net assets around $900m used market value of pref debt, bonds and ordinary shares and added all the other equity.
cost of debt 5.47%, wacc 11% or 12%December 9, 2010 at 6:11 pm #73875@saadshakil said:
q1- npv was (-700+) something. cost of capital 12.* something.q2- (a)discussion part abt takeover, (b)bond interest rate- yield curve normal and inverse, (c)effiency weak semi strong and strong.
q3- eoq 5000units, there was saving using eoq.
q4- value of company $755m. net assets around $900m used market value of pref debt, bonds and ordinary shares and added all the other equity.
cost of debt 5.47%, wacc 11% or 12%Do you think you passed?
December 9, 2010 at 6:15 pm #73876AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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left 16 marks compeletely blank!! 10 marks of dividend policy and 6 marks of giving early settlement discount.. if other calculations are correct then i hope i can pass
December 9, 2010 at 6:25 pm #73877AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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I actually want foreingn exchange to come, i understand it really well now, Anyways, it was an ok paper. Q 1 had me puzzled tho but i got negative npv too. I hope ah pass. Prepin for F7
December 9, 2010 at 7:37 pm #73878Question 1, please someone tell me if this was correct…
I worked out the inflated values of SP-SC for the first 4 years, then did the same for the VC using the other inflation rate as specified.
Took those figures as contribution per unit and multiplied by the 750000 for each year to get the income for yr 1 – 4.
Credit of 250k in yr0 for working capital, worked out what inflation on 250k was at 4.5% for each year and credited each year with the differences. Originally used the DF of 20%, but redone the entire question as also forgot tax!!
I didn’t claim the working capital back in the end, thought that is what was requested. Overall got around neg 740k NPVpart b, discussed how payback is a crude evaluation suitable for screening out projects, ignores cash flow outside payback period. ROCE better but includes non relevant cash flow and ignores timing and time value of cash flows.
Q2
Can’t remember the first part. JIT was easy.Q3
For the raising of 200m, I suggested sale and lease back of the 300m NCA. Also tackling of the overdraft with its huge interest and on demand risk. Payables days was very short so discuss extending or making use of longer credit period.
Rights issue and offering to public but wary of dilution of control from insitutional investors.Market efficiency, mentioned weak, semi strong and strong efficiency
Q4
Got a Kd = 3% from doing IRR
WACC = 11.4%
Ke = 12% as stated
vd: think was 52.4m
ve: around 830mFor receivables management wherever that was, discussed credit analysis, credit management and credit collection and use of debt factors.
Hope for at least 50!
December 9, 2010 at 7:44 pm #73879You are the second one after me who said that you have written the methods of raising 200m, Where every one saying that the question related to ratio
i have written over draft, long term loan, right issue, etc
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Question 1, please someone tell me if this was correct…
I worked out the inflated values of SP-SC for the first 4 years, then did the same for the VC using the other inflation rate as specified.
Took those figures as contribution per unit and multiplied by the 750000 for each year to get the income for yr 1 – 4.
Credit of 250k in yr0 for working capital, worked out what inflation on 250k was at 4.5% for each year and credited each year with the differences. Originally used the DF of 20%, but redone the entire question as also forgot tax!!
I didn’t claim the working capital back in the end, thought that is what was requested. Overall got around neg 740k NPVpart b, discussed how payback is a crude evaluation suitable for screening out projects, ignores cash flow outside payback period. ROCE better but includes non relevant cash flow and ignores timing and time value of cash flows.
Q2
Can’t remember the first part. JIT was easy.Q3
For the raising of 200m, I suggested sale and lease back of the 300m NCA. Also tackling of the overdraft with its huge interest and on demand risk. Payables days was very short so discuss extending or making use of longer credit period.
Rights issue and offering to public but wary of dilution of control from insitutional investors.Market efficiency, mentioned weak, semi strong and strong efficiency
Q4
Got a Kd = 3% from doing IRR
WACC = 11.4%
Ke = 12% as stated
vd: think was 52.4m
ve: around 830mFor receivables management wherever that was, discussed credit analysis, credit management and credit collection and use of debt factors.
Hope for at least 50!
December 9, 2010 at 7:44 pm #73880AnonymousInactive- Topics: 1
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it was easy but tricky. I will surely pass this.
December 9, 2010 at 7:47 pm #73881I threw in roce for the current year and also the trade payables days but couldnt really put too much into it as there was no balance sheet figs for previous year for comparison. Hopefully there will be marks available for non ratio as it was still analysis and evaluation. I love ratio analysis, and would have preferred a different question π
@handsome said:
You are the second one after me who said that you have written the methods of raising 200m, Where every one saying that the question related to ratioi have written over draft, long term loan, right issue, etc
December 9, 2010 at 7:50 pm #73882Ratio analysis is one of my fav topic too but i did not understand the question in exam and start writing the method of raising cash π
i wish there would be hedging question
@05008967 said:
I threw in roce for the current year and also the trade payables days but couldnt really put too much into it as there was no balance sheet figs for previous year for comparison. Hopefully there will be marks available for non ratio as it was still analysis and evaluation. I love ratio analysis, and would have preferred a different question πDecember 9, 2010 at 7:54 pm #73884I am sure the question did ask you to discuss methods that could be undertaken to raise the money required, so i think we are ok. half marks at least! F7 next week, awful.
@handsome said:
Ratio analysis is one of my fav topic too but i did not understand the question in exam and start writing the method of raising cash πi wish there would be hedging question
December 9, 2010 at 9:26 pm #73885Guys this paper looks easy but there was some tricky questions. I know the examiners is going to mark very hard.
The neg NPV scared me and my friends too so we can waste more time on adding back our answers.
the only answer i am certain abt is the stupid 5000 units using the EOQ
I didn’t prepared for this i had to really think back.
I pray and hope for a pass desperately.December 9, 2010 at 9:35 pm #73886@sabrina1942 said:
Guys this paper looks easy but there was some tricky questions. I know the examiners is going to mark very hard.
The neg NPV scared me and my friends too so we can waste more time on adding back our answers.
the only answer i am certain abt is the stupid 5000 units using the EOQ
I didn’t prepared for this i had to really think back.
I pray and hope for a pass desperately.YOU KNOW HOW?- the marking is pretty standard for f9 judging by the schemes for the past papers. Most of the theory questions were quite straightforward although they required firm knowledge of the topics to which they referred. The NPV had one slight twist in that the tax benefit was delayed one year but nothing that hasn’t been seen before, negative NPVs are actually more common than positive when evaluating projects. The only reason you’re seeing tricky questions is because you were not prepared.
December 9, 2010 at 10:07 pm #73887AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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@ derrick
when we say something is at nominal term = real terms and the computation added inflation β¦ there was a general inflation with must be factored in the computationβ¦. if i may ask , which question are you referring
i am referring to q1
im also referring to q1..the general inflation rate was given to inflate the wc costs i guess not to adjust the already adjusted cost of capital..nominal means that it has the affect of general inflation…December 9, 2010 at 10:16 pm #73888any body tell me the my calculation are correct i hope so but calculating npv not correct tellme what happen plzzz
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