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- December 14, 2010 at 2:39 pm #74966
@tzxsean said:
my lecturer told me if the 1st step in calculating the months apportionment is wrong..then whole questions will be wrong… i duno whether marks will be given or not at allTold your lecturer that he.she is wrong. Months has its own importance, but it does not mean you lost the all numbers!!
Every step has its own numbers (take a look of marking patten)
December 14, 2010 at 2:42 pm #74967Q3 was a cockup to be honest. why give loss to compare the ratios with? makes it much more difficult.
couldn’t balance Q1 and Q2 hope to clear it.
Only did 1/2 Q4 as time management was poor.December 14, 2010 at 2:42 pm #74968AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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December 14, 2010 at 2:47 pm #74969AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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Q..2..TAX Calculation…was it Tax Asset?? CV was lower thn Tax Base?? can some one share?
December 14, 2010 at 2:57 pm #74970@onlysarwar said:
Q..2..TAX Calculation…was it Tax Asset?? CV was lower thn Tax Base?? can some one share?here is the calculation
Defer tax from TB
Less: 25% on Deffer amount
Balance (positive)
this year tex (given)
Less balance figure from above
Add provision from TB
balance of tax for I/Sthis year tex (given) (for tax payable in balance sheet)
25% on Deffer amount (defered tax in balance sheet)December 14, 2010 at 2:57 pm #74971AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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@ uid0191 my balance figure was around that figure.
December 14, 2010 at 2:58 pm #74973AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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@ uid0191 my balance sheet figure was around that 150000.
December 14, 2010 at 3:08 pm #74974well.. fair exam like f9 and f8, but managed to mess it up like the other two! Havent had my computer much this time round so didnt use open tuition as much. Helped me pass all 3 in June. Gutted to say that i’ll probably be taking all 3 again the summer with some focused thoughts about where i went wrong. Q1 and Q2 – dont really even know what i ended up doing.. Q3 ratios – kind of a cross over with F9 here and i studied quite hard for that one so think it went okay. Net profit was negative but once you take the one-off costs in to account, performance was not as bad as first analysed.
Q5 i spoke about assets held for sale. As they were held for sale they need to be derocgnised and deferred liability and income put in current assets and liabilities. Incomce statement then needs a seperate ‘other income’ line to represent the assets held for sale.
Anyway, anyone else failed a few in one sitting and then re-taken? Could do with some positive thoughts around this time to keep me going! Thanks all…December 14, 2010 at 3:18 pm #74975🙁
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spent too much time cocking up the tricky bits i didnt have time to get teh easy bits right….. re-sit in June definitely!
December 14, 2010 at 3:32 pm #74977AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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fair paper
December 14, 2010 at 3:54 pm #74978@sunny84 said:
Doesn’t matter. Thats just 1 mistake. May b 1-2 marks down. The examiner would check ur paper as per ur month apportionment. I just hope u didn’t mingle up these months in different papers of the question differently. If that was a constant treatment it wouldn’t cost u more than 2. So cheer up 🙂@derrickagyiri @sunny84 is right, you would only get marked down once for that mistake, if the rest of the answer follows on correctly, you will probably get the bulk of the marks. 🙂
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@handsome said:
here is the calculation
Defer tax from TB
Less: 25% on Deffer amount
Balance (positive)
this year tex (given)
Less balance figure from above
Add provision from TB
balance of tax for I/Sthis year tex (given) (for tax payable in balance sheet)
25% on Deffer amount (defered tax in balance sheet)THANKX ALOT…..
December 14, 2010 at 3:59 pm #74980Fair exam but unfortunately I messed up with timing. I spent too much time trying to get Q1 100% which I didn’t in the end.Classic mistake. I will be resitting this one but I’m not too sad about that because at least I knew the stuff, just couldn’t work fast enough. Lots of practice between now and June methinks. I learnt today that it’s not good enough knowing this stuff, you’ve got to be ready to just reel it off pronto, no time to think and theorise, this stuff has got to be second nature. 10 more hours and I would have got 100%, lol.
Good luck guys.
December 14, 2010 at 4:04 pm #74981@derrickagyiri, hope what i am about to tell you makes you feel better……Are you ready?/// ready???
I sat the wrong stream, i have been studying for International while i was registered for UK, so imagine my shock when i was looking to calculate NCI goodwill and i could not find any info to do so.
i attempted the whole paper as if it was international, i aint got a clue about the differences between the 2 streams but i’m fuck up, i thinkDecember 14, 2010 at 4:05 pm #74982@onlysarwar said:
Q 5…….Wasnt it is IAS 37?? Valid Expectation in mind of those affected??IAS 37 is in the adjustments of a plant in Q2…
Q5 is Discontinued operations/Held for assets/ Events after reporting periodDecember 14, 2010 at 4:13 pm #74983Q4 depreciation was wrong. you cannot retrospectively charge depreciation if the method changes (IAS16 and IAS8)
Q5 IFRS 5 – Discontinued Ops, didn’t write too much about it as i was running out of time.
Q1 messed up the time apportionment (did 3 months instead of 4 for some reason) but it was consistently throughout my workings and CSOCI so i should get the marks anyway…
Q2 everything was pretty straightforward, just not enough time! didn’t finish my SOCIE bt got the dividend and share issue workings done.
Q3 was time constrained too, but got a good 12 ratios in and two pages of analysis with all 3 headings and a conclusion.December 14, 2010 at 4:23 pm #74984@aurianne04 said:
@derrickagyiri, hope what i am about to tell you makes you feel better……Are you ready?/// ready???
I sat the wrong stream, i have been studying for International while i was registered for UK, so imagine my shock when i was looking to calculate NCI goodwill and i could not find any info to do so.
i attempted the whole paper as if it was international, i aint got a clue about the differences between the 2 streams but i’m fuck up, i thinkOh you poor thing. Don’t give up hope though, there are enough similarities that you may just pass. In 2009 I turned up to do paper F9 having spent all weekend preparing, Imagine my surprise when I found it was F8, I was due to sit that one too but I hadn’t prepared the night before or even thought about it…..I passed, hope you do too.
December 14, 2010 at 4:31 pm #74985Q1 – Very time pressured. Did not balance but felt okay about it. Around the 60k mark. Accrued profit and apportioned rather than use my I/s figures for retained earnings.
Q2 – Great question. Managed to do all adjustments except the Provision for the fixed asset. Just depreciated as normal (12.5%) and just carried on.
Q3 – Total disaster. Started running short on time. Got down 6 ratios (approx) including the ROCE breakdown into Asset Turnover and Margins and started exploring the profitability by analysing gross margin and stripping out the effect of the property revaluation into COS. Found that profitability still went way down YOY and suggested that the Company was in fact loosing relevance. Gearing was approximately even.
Would you think the market would give me any marks for my planned points of discussion (i.e. the bits I didn’t get to lay out in my formal analysis).
I put for Q4
Circumstances:
Clearer Presentation
Required by IAS
Framework issues – Reliabilityexamples:
Useful economic life – Depreciation – Estimate
Reducing balance – Depreciation – PolicyAssistant:
1) Depreciation is prospective.
2) She did two errors:
a) Mixed up the Starting and Ending inventory
b) Mixed up the FIFO and AVCO Inventories.
3) All restatements must be retrospective and the net effect was 0.6m higher loss.Q5 –
Probably complete fail. Recognised it was NCA held for sale and discontinued ops. Missed the subs events but wrote some stuff down and moved on. Probably a one marker at best.
Thats my 2 cents. Hope for a pass but for now, lets enjoy the holidays. Happy Holidays everyone.
December 14, 2010 at 4:38 pm #74986oops. Just remembered Q1 was not 12 months for the sub… never mind eh…
December 14, 2010 at 4:48 pm #74987paper was fair but time pressured i would say. did a lot silly mistakes. i dont understand i thought it was 4th month only only so did time apportioned for q1.
December 14, 2010 at 5:00 pm #74988@Yazdavies: thank you as you just cheer me up
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I think you will still get credit for your fuck up, as your method was correct just the calc was wrong
December 14, 2010 at 5:03 pm #74991I did F7 UK – Again like F5 questions contained a lot of information before you can attempt answer!
Q1 – did fairly but could not complete totals for BS and P&L
Q2 – I think I did adjustments ok but again I ran out of time to add totals in B/S and P&L
Q3 – did not write enough and dont think I had time to include all ratios though I did the basics.
Q4 – Accouting policies/estimates -did fairly ok but pressurised for time.
Q5 – very dissapointed with my input.Hope for 50???? Any views someone?
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I think since it was such an easy paper markers will go very hard on us, pass rate was year was 28% this year I reckon 40% to 50%
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