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P7 Sep 18 preparetion

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  • This topic has 17 replies, 8 voices, and was last updated 6 years ago by Xedous.
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  • June 11, 2018 at 3:47 am #458233
    sambathkun
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    Dear all,

    I’d like to seek some advices for P7 exam preparetion especially with the change in exam formate. Anyone feel free to give me advices.

    Regards,
    Sambath

    June 11, 2018 at 4:41 pm #458346
    Kim Smith
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    I don’t think there is much difference in how AAA (P7) should be studied as the syllabus content is substantially the same – albeit restructured.

    The main difference will be in revising with new exam style and standard Qs – i.e. meeting the descriptions of Qs that will feature in Section A (50-mark case including professional marks) and Section B (2 x 25 mark Qs – NO choice) according to ACCA’s description of the approach to examining the syllabus (see page 11 of the syllabus and study guide) https://www.accaglobal.com/content/dam/acca/global/PDF-students/acca/p7/studyguides/aaa-int-sg-sept18-jun19.pdf

    June 12, 2018 at 8:08 am #458419
    sambathkun
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    Thank Kim. Regarding to the study material, BPP text and kit June 2018 still can be used?

    June 12, 2018 at 9:51 am #458426
    Kim Smith
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    You would probably get away with a 2017-18 text as long as you supplement your study with the additions to examinable docs:
    Exposure Drafts (EDs):
    IAASB Proposed International Standard on Auditing 540 (Revised) Auditing Accounting Estimates and Related Disclosures
    IESBA Proposed Application Material Relating to Professional Skepticism and Professional Judgment
    IESBA Proposed Revisions Pertaining to Safeguards on the Code—Phase 2
    Other documents (IAASB):
    Towards Enhanced Professional Skepticism (August 2017)
    The New Auditor’s Report – Questions and Answers (November 2016)
    Exploring the Increasing Use of Technology in the Audit with a Focus on Data Analytics (September 2016)
    However, I would strongly recommend a 2018-19 revision question bank/kit.

    June 16, 2018 at 5:15 am #458910
    sambathkun
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    Thank Kim. the 2018-19 is available yet?

    June 18, 2018 at 6:58 am #459209
    Kim Smith
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    Check out the approved content providers’ websites – I believe they published in March.

    June 20, 2018 at 4:24 am #459428
    sambathkun
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    thank Kim for your help

    June 21, 2018 at 12:37 am #459539
    monica786
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    Hi,
    This is what I felt about the exam
    I got 66% in audit first time …my tips are you need to know your P2 knowledge as this will be tested. You are auditing the financial statements given in the exam I.e if they are in accordance to the ias and what the risks there are that they are not. With audit I found it’s best to be concise and to the point. For example: define: accordance to ias ppe , ppe should be recognised if the following criteria is met e.g probable eco benefit and cost of asset can reliably measured. Relate to the scenario, according to the senerio an item has been capitalised but doesn’t meet the criteria of probable eco benefit as it dependent on blah blah, therefore it can be argued that the ppe figure is overstated. There is a misstatement risk. Something like this this. Sorry I wrote this as an example from the top of my head.

    I felt it is best not to use words it like it is wrong or incorrect but like there is a possibility that it’s overstated and understated. And when I wasn’t sure which standard it related to I was like it can be argued that this relates to this standard because xyz. I hope this makes sense. Definitely do the exam kit invest your time in this- it will give the technique structure that you need for the exam. Also the articles are useful to read although I cannot remember if that came up.

    June 21, 2018 at 7:30 am #459553
    sambathkun
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    @monica786 said:
    Hi,
    This is what I felt about the exam
    I got 66% in audit first time …my tips are you need to know your P2 knowledge as this will be tested. You are auditing the financial statements given in the exam I.e if they are in accordance to the ias and what the risks there are that they are not. With audit I found it’s best to be concise and to the point. For example: define: accordance to ias ppe , ppe should be recognised if the following criteria is met e.g probable eco benefit and cost of asset can reliably measured. Relate to the scenario, according to the senerio an item has been capitalised but doesn’t meet the criteria of probable eco benefit as it dependent on blah blah, therefore it can be argued that the ppe figure is overstated. There is a misstatement risk. Something like this this. Sorry I wrote this as an example from the top of my head.

    I felt it is best not to use words it like it is wrong or incorrect but like there is a possibility that it’s overstated and understated. And when I wasn’t sure which standard it related to I was like it can be argued that this relates to this standard because xyz. I hope this makes sense. Definitely do the exam kit invest your time in this- it will give the technique structure that you need for the exam. Also the articles are useful to read although I cannot remember if that came up.

    Big thank to Minica for your detail guidance,it helps me alot.

    July 10, 2018 at 7:29 am #461485
    Anonymous
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    Hi
    I have to sit P7 exam sept18. can you advise me that where can I get sample question& answer test.

    July 10, 2018 at 7:45 am #461491
    Kim Smith
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    ACCA has published a new Specimen Exam – select the relevant version (Int or UK) here https://www.accaglobal.com/ca/en/student/exam-support-resources/professional-exams-study-resources/p7/specimen-exams.html

    For past exam questions adapted to the new exam style and standard you will need to buy a revision kit/question from BPP or Kaplan.

    July 16, 2018 at 9:24 am #462993
    Xedous
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    Hi Kim2311,

    Can you please share information about the difference between old and new exam scheme starting from Sep-18.

    What i understood from above discussion, the difference is about number of questions and their marks only. Correct me if i am wrong.

    Thanks and regards.

    July 16, 2018 at 8:45 pm #463301
    razasync
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    -Check out the last page of the below link for the Summary of Changes in Syllabus AAA(INT) made for Sep18 attempt as compared to previous one.

    https://www.accaglobal.com/pk/en/student/exam-support-resources/professional-exams-study-resources/p7/syllabus-study-guide/p7-international-int-syllabus-study-guide.html#

    -Also Q1 is of 50 marks. Q2 & Q3 25 each.
    No choice like before. Total 3 Questions and all compulsory.
    You can check specimen of Questions for AAA(INT) Sep18 attempt in below link

    https://www.accaglobal.com/content/dam/ACCA_Global/Students/exam/expap/S18_Specimen_Paper_P7INT(AAA)_Clean_Proof.pdf

    July 18, 2018 at 10:31 am #463700
    anngreed
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    Hi Kim,

    thanks so much. will we still be asked on audit risk/business risk in question one? also that means we will have to answer on audit reports?I used to always avoid those questions and didnt study them, I find them impossible and you can fail an exam by just giving the wrong audit opinion.

    July 18, 2018 at 10:47 am #463704
    Kim Smith
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    Please DO read the information that is out there to support you. The “approach to examining the syllabus” in the syllabus and study guide states that Q1 will be set at the planning stage of the audit. Look at Q1 of the Specimen – there are 20 marks for evaluating audit risk.

    Also in the approach to examining “One question will always predominantly come from syllabus section E, and consequently candidates should be prepared to answer a question relating to completion, review and reporting …” going on to say that you may be asked “critique an auditor’s report”. This topic cannot be avoided – you must study them – a candidate would not fail an exam entirely due to having giving the “wrong” audit opinion because there will be marks will be for the justification/explanation (see Q2(b)(ii) of the Specimen).

    July 20, 2018 at 3:04 pm #464057
    eibad
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    Hi
    can anyone guide me where i can get my practice answers reviewed by someone. so that he can guide me to improve my answers.

    July 20, 2018 at 3:31 pm #464062
    Kim Smith
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    See the answer to a similar Q here https://opentuition.com/topic/how-to-get-past-papers-marked/
    Basically, you’re not going to find anyone advertising to do this for free. If you’ve already passed another option paper you might try advertising for a study buddy whose doing that option but has passed P7 already – then help each other with reciprocal marking exercises.

    July 20, 2018 at 4:21 pm #464066
    Xedous
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    Thanks for your information.

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