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P7 Planning in exam in answer booklet marks?

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  • This topic has 13 replies, 3 voices, and was last updated 7 years ago by MikeLittle.
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  • November 26, 2015 at 10:58 am #285428
    Sam
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    Hi I wanted to know do you get marks for writing your plan in the answer booklet? Also how should the plan layout be?

    November 26, 2015 at 11:18 am #285434
    MikeLittle
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    Of course you should write a plan in your answer booklet – for each question and each part question!

    What form should it take? Brief headings – maybe just the question part number eg “a”, “b” etc followed by single words or very short bullets extensively using abbreviations (1 wd r vy sht bllts exten use abbrevs) enough to enable you to recognize what the thought / idea was that made you think that it was appropriate

    November 27, 2015 at 4:23 pm #285756
    Sam
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    Ok

    Thanks mike for answering, also will examiners look at the plan and possibly give any marks for it?

    November 27, 2015 at 8:22 pm #285802
    MikeLittle
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    It was stated many years ago that plans would be considered when it was clear that a student had run out of time but would not attract the possibility of full credit for points made.

    Whatever you do, do not cross out your plan! Anything crossed out is not marked. So don’t cross out

    Ok?

    November 27, 2015 at 9:12 pm #285810
    abdullahzafar
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    Sorry for interfering. I know its not allowed to write in ask from tutor forum but his question really confused me.

    What does “plan” mean? Are you guys talking about plan to write a specific answer? Isn’t it only allowed to write on question booklet instead of answer booklet.

    November 27, 2015 at 9:30 pm #285815
    MikeLittle
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    Oh dear! How many, many, many times have I written in this forum (and in P1, P2 and F7 forums as well as in F4 forum before the structure changed)

    Yes, PLAN your answer BEFORE you start to write your answer out properly

    Spend the correct length of time planning (number of marks divided by 2 = the number of minutes you need to spend planning) to make sure that what you are about to write answers the question, the whole question and nothing but the question.

    Don’t talk rubbish about question papers and answer booklets. You’re not allowed to write in the answer booklet until that initial 15 minutes READING AND PLANNING TIME has elapsed, but after that you MUST write your plans in the answer booklet. And do not cross out your plan even though you may have expanded upon every point within your plan. Still do not cross it out

    ACCA repeatedly say “There continues to be a noticeable lack of visible evidence of the planning process”. I’m sure they only say this because they like the feel of it. NOT

    After you’ve finished planning, you then have ONLY 1 minute 18 seconds to write each single sentence containing just ONE separate, relevant, markable point.

    Have you never read the exam technique articles on this site to which I find I am repeatedly referring?

    How have you managed to get to P7 without this basic technique? Just think, all those times you failed, you could have passed. All the marks that you scored in the 50s and 60s could well have been converted into 70s and 80s. Maybe even prize-winning performances

    Yes ……. P L A N your answers!

    November 27, 2015 at 11:43 pm #285823
    Sam
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    Ok that clears up the planning stage, thanks.

    November 28, 2015 at 3:06 am #285836
    MikeLittle
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    You’re welcome

    November 28, 2015 at 2:04 pm #285944
    abdullahzafar
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    @mikelittle said:
    Oh dear! How many, many, many times have I written in this forum (and in P1, P2 and F7 forums as well as in F4 forum before the structure changed)

    Yes, PLAN your answer BEFORE you start to write your answer out properly

    Spend the correct length of time planning (number of marks divided by 2 = the number of minutes you need to spend planning) to make sure that what you are about to write answers the question, the whole question and nothing but the question.

    Don’t talk rubbish about question papers and answer booklets. You’re not allowed to write in the answer booklet until that initial 15 minutes READING AND PLANNING TIME has elapsed, but after that you MUST write your plans in the answer booklet. And do not cross out your plan even though you may have expanded upon every point within your plan. Still do not cross it out

    ACCA repeatedly say “There continues to be a noticeable lack of visible evidence of the planning process”. I’m sure they only say this because they like the feel of it. NOT

    After you’ve finished planning, you then have ONLY 1 minute 18 seconds to write each single sentence containing just ONE separate, relevant, markable point.

    Have you never read the exam technique articles on this site to which I find I am repeatedly referring?

    How have you managed to get to P7 without this basic technique? Just think, all those times you failed, you could have passed. All the marks that you scored in the 50s and 60s could well have been converted into 70s and 80s. Maybe even prize-winning performances

    Yes ……. P L A N your answers!

    Idk sir why you always perceived me wrong. I DIDNT SAY THAT I NEVER PLANNED IN EXAMS. I only asked about would it be worth to write plan on ANSWER BOOKLET.

    As now you clarified it, I am very thankful to you.

    I ASKED THAT QUESTION BECAUSE
    I always write my plan on QUESTION BOOKLET during planing time because after that time there is only 1.18 minutes for me to write each relevant point so I never write my plan on ANSWER BOOKLET BECAUSE ALL I DO IS TO FOCUS ON WRITING ANSWERS AND SOMETIMES PLAN IN MIND. So my other question was that would it still be marked if I write my Plan on QUESTION BOOKLET.

    In the last I OBVIOUSLY KNOW THAT NOBODY COULD PASS ACCA IF HE DONT KNOW HOW TO PLAN IN EXAM.

    November 28, 2015 at 3:02 pm #285955
    MikeLittle
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    How can your plan be marked if you write it on the question paper?

    You also said “Isn’t it only allowed to write on question booklet instead of answer booklet”

    So you clearly did think that writing on answer booklet was not allowed – unless (I’m giving you the benefit of the doubt here) you were referring to what you were allowed to do in the 15 minutes reading and planning time

    But at least I hope that you’ve learned something now from this thread

    November 28, 2015 at 3:14 pm #285962
    abdullahzafar
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    @mikelittle said:
    How can your plan be marked if you write it on the question paper?

    You also said “Isn’t it only allowed to write on question booklet instead of answer booklet”

    So you clearly did think that writing on answer booklet was not allowed – unless (I’m giving you the benefit of the doubt here) you we referring to what you were allowed to do in the 15 minutes reading and planning time

    But at least I hope that you’ve learned something now from this thread

    Yes sir I was reffering to first 15 minutes of planning time in my earlier question. Sorry my mistake I didn’t write in full. Its also a fact that I never thought that writing my plan on answer booklet would earn me marks. I only write planning on question paper just for myself to remember to write key relevant points regarding each question

    Yes I always learn from you every time I log in on this forum. Thank you very much sir.

    Can you please give me a favor by guide me what to write in plan on my answer booklet including layout. Should I write it before starting each question?

    November 28, 2015 at 5:19 pm #285983
    MikeLittle
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    How can I tell you what to write? What you write is totally dependent upon the question or part-question and the marks available

    Write your plan in bullet points only – NOT FULL SENTENCES – just enough to remind you what your thought was that prompted you to write it down

    November 29, 2015 at 12:26 pm #286123
    abdullahzafar
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    @mikelittle said:
    How can I tell you what to write? What you write is totally dependent upon the question or part-question and the marks available

    Write your plan in bullet points only – NOT FULL SENTENCES – just enough to remind you what your thought was that prompted you to write it down

    Yeah I know 😀

    Thanks a lot sir that’s all I want to know.

    November 29, 2015 at 10:48 pm #286253
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    Good, and good luck in the exam (if I don’t hear from you before!)

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