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- June 3, 2014 at 3:01 pm #173239
Q5(b) had except for opinion because matter was not pervasive hence it could not be adverse or disclaimer
June 3, 2014 at 4:02 pm #173262AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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question say sub same currency same ifrs but new associate buy during the year remain silent…as.professional skepticism..i believe this remain a big audit risk..like class ie significant influece n the accounting trearment ie buy duringthe year..this should be solid answer to question one ??
June 3, 2014 at 4:24 pm #173278Can anyone please tell that have i followed a right approach to answer Q1 :
I made an answer plan first on my answer sheet which included short points and key words so that i can structure and follow logical sequence and within that answer plan I also included an Appendix which showed ratio calculations and then i started my actual answer on a fresh page and gave Heading of Briefing notes and followed format of briefing notes, then i wrote Q1 a + Q1 b and answered them togather and after this I wrote Q1 c and answered it and at last I wrote conclusion to end the briefing notes.
With this approach can I also get some professional marks as I fear that I do not fail due to 1 or 2 marks only. I am very worried.
I thank you for your time and guidance.
June 3, 2014 at 5:46 pm #173317@Faizan, you mean you did all that in 63mins for Q1?? If you attempted atleast 90% of the paper within the 3hours, then I must commend you, you must be a fast writer! I couldn’t take that risk cos I didn’t think there was sufficient time for the paparazzi, had my techniques in my head which I wrote down in the 15mins reading time for all the questions…as soon as I heard start I just dived in! I did the To, From, Date, Subject, Introduction and Conclusion…no planning on answer sheet! You should get atleast 3 out of 4marks for what you described up there #myopinion…but then what do I know?
June 3, 2014 at 8:14 pm #173434Like most people have said i feel it was a fair paper with familiar questions. However it was very time pressured. Which meant to complete the paper you couldn’t really take too much time to think.
Overall i just kept writing the whole way through as i knew i needed to attempt all questions to have a better chance. It meant i missed quite a few points i obviously knew. Also my explanations for my point were probably not as i good as i would like as i was just writing.
I did question 4 then 3 as my options. I skipped question 5 even though audit reporting was my strongest area when i saw 8marks was all to the with going concern changes in reports. Luckily question 3 was reasonable and probably the easiest optional. It just looked intimidating as there was more to read.
Anyway with most people’s comments regarding not completing, i am a bit happier that i finished and hopefully did enough to pass. We will all find out in August!
June 3, 2014 at 8:25 pm #173441Dear Toyosi, thank you for your reply,
I first started my paper with Q4 then I did Q2 then Q5 and at last I had almost 58 to 62 left to complete Q1, I completed 100% paper by the Grace of Allah, but I am still confused that what doeas ACCA expect from us, I scored 71 in P1 at first attempt and 74 in F9, but last time I failed in P7 that was my first attempt of it, and i still don’t know that why i got failed, since my points were almost according to past paper answers of Dec 2013 session. This is making me worried that despite all of the efforts, what does ACCA wants from us.
June 3, 2014 at 10:08 pm #173468This is exactly true with me. I looked at the answers for the Dec-13 paper and was surprised I failed also and seem to remember that my answers were nearly exactly same. Let’s see what happens on 8 August 2014.
June 4, 2014 at 12:02 am #173496@Faizan, okay good! Fingers crossed! I have passed all my 5 F papers on first attempts as well, 3 of them with 70+. p7 is my first P paper and I am just praying to God for help to pass. Since you did 100%, chances are you would have said enough VALID points to atleast get 50marks. Again, fingers crossed. Let’s look forward to celebrating in August by God’s grace! Cheers.
June 4, 2014 at 4:08 am #173511Dear Toyosi and Azramalik, thank you for your support and good wishes, May Allah help all of us to achieve great success in this world and the hereafter. I wish all of you good luck and best wishes.
June 4, 2014 at 5:48 am #173515tough exam compred to lasttime
June 4, 2014 at 10:58 am #173583AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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June 4, 2014 at 7:20 pm #173939AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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Q 1 : I spotted some risk as follows:
– Associate: Significant influence or not?
– Income Statement dint show share of profit from associate (25% x 6Mtns x PAT). ( I believe the Extra 500K is the profit share, which may have been accounted in Revenue to inflate bonuses for managers)
– Purchase consideration may have been incorrectly accounted.
– Fashion industry – IAS 2 : highly volatile. (also says in Q – 12 months unsold inventory : I believe provision of obsolete goods not created at a group level)
– IAS 24: Related party Disclosures not shown as required..
– Provision on unrealized profit not eliminated
– Interco Sales / Purchase, Receivable/payable not eliminated.
– Management Charges: 800K x 3 branches = 2.4 Mn to be eliminated (not 800K) 2.4 Mn is significant amount that could be charged to revenue and thus increase bonuses and similarly provision created must be knocked off.
– New Client: opening balances may contain errors.
– Control Risk
– Forex purchase and sales, Interco forex gain on sales and purchases to also be eliminated.
– OCI element not shown on face of SOFP.
– Forex Translation of Open Net assets/ goodwill not shown on income statement under OCI.
– Impairment review of Adam Brand name due to slow moving goods ( Actually many more provision would be required to be passed, subsequently profit margin will reduce, therefore an impairment review needs to be done.)
– cash rich people? laundering money into investment property (Cash business: high chance for laundering to happen.)……………………………………… (not very sure about this)
– Investment property income during the year is only 200 and opening balance is 7500. How come 10000 on SOFP?.
– Previous year TAX % 26% and Current year only 20% ( understated provision and overstated profits.June 4, 2014 at 8:53 pm #173973Hello guys, regarding Question 2 (a) part where before accepting PFI engagement matters to consider were asked, i badly messed up on that part although i knew the answer but i mistakenly wrote other before acceptance matters such as Objectivity, fee & profitability, risk etc..
I want to know if these things are also considered or i will get 0 marks?
June 5, 2014 at 4:06 am #174050If you look at your BPP exam kit at Q42 Cusiter part (b) will give you the answer to that question of matters to consider before accepting PFI engagement. I manage to remember the responses to this question, thank God so I know I picked up a few marks there.
Also, I would like to say that the Kaplan mock exam June 2014 was extremely helpful. The questions asked were almost mirroring what came in the exam. My husband and I went through the first question just the night before the exam, cuz I only saw that the link to download the mock exam was put up last Sunday. But many of the questions were on point. I benefitted greatly I must say.
I’m praying for a pass. Looking forward to August God willing.
June 5, 2014 at 7:19 am #174093@trinistudent001 sorry i don’t have access to BPP kit, i do know the correct answer and that my answer was wrong but shouldn’t objectivity and other stuff also be considered?
June 5, 2014 at 4:24 pm #174304AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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it was a relatively easy exam compared to some questions in previous years. I tried my normal approach to make as many relevant points as I could explain well. tried the *because* technique which LSBF teaches us- worked from the feel of it. actually I feel like my P7 tutor did brilliant work as he gave very good techniques and some of the questions- like Q2 on forecast- I wrote all 13 marks without reading the example first because it did not make much difference to my answer. itis all about technique.
not sure why people complain that ACCA wants too much- guys if everyone passes and exam is a piece of cake, how much do you expect to be paid after investing yourself into these exams? 14k? please.
I work in top 10, attend college, do self study and take 3 exams each session, now it’s my last one with P6 on top. so nobody can tell me I don’t do much. I work my ass off- and it works- I haven’t had a single exam lower than 60.
just don’t complain, work hard.June 5, 2014 at 11:40 pm #174480Does anybody know the breakdown of marks allocation for Q2,,, in my view the question was for 20 marks,, matters to consider 6,,, procedures 6,, stages of money laundering 4,, and 4 marks for quality control procedures over money laundering in a firm,,, Plzz reply
June 6, 2014 at 6:21 am #174515AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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Q2 – a) i) PFI engagement accept – 6
ii) PFI audit procedures – 8
b) i) money laundering stages– 5
ii) elements to encounter money laundering– 6June 6, 2014 at 8:38 am #174540AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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Question for this June 2014 session is quite easy. So, I expect tight checking at least for this paper.
June 6, 2014 at 2:38 pm #174639AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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I did not put the question numbers on front paper as we’ll as in the top of paper I couldn’t fill the blob..because of time pressure!! What will markers think?? Pls reply !! I did my last paper p7..
June 7, 2014 at 9:44 am #174949Anyone knows if we had to do preliminary analytical review in Q1a?
It was not asked but there were a lot of marks for only risks and the f/s were givenI didn’t do them i thing that i may have lost 8 marks or more!
What do you think?
June 8, 2014 at 3:26 am #175102AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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I did analytical review in q1a, althought the question ask for audit risk.there must be a reason for examiner to include the FS there..
June 9, 2014 at 6:10 pm #175494AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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exactly, this gave me trouble
June 10, 2014 at 9:59 am #175649AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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I wrote question 1,2,3,4 fingers crossed
June 11, 2014 at 8:58 pm #176032I also identified the same audit risks.
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