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- December 2, 2013 at 2:46 pm #149149AnonymousInactive
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Had problems with Time management and also difficulties selecting the optional questions, am just praying for a Pass.
December 2, 2013 at 2:53 pm #149152cant believe my luck , very poor time management, question on ethics and other professional matters was so simple , but by the time i got to it , the clock turned on me , left the whole question attempted around 78% , would have passed easily had i been able to attempt Q4 on ethics but so is life π ……. Still i prey for a pass , anyone else with same disgusting feeling of knowing u were almost there.aaaah Btw failed last time on 48 and attempted 90% that time π , so if i do pass it wont be less then a miracle ….
December 2, 2013 at 2:59 pm #149154Well why didn’t you start the exam by answering Qs4? you don’t have to sit in question order 1-4 etc. I always time myself and write on the question paper the time i should be starting each question.
Exam was okay, fully revised on due diligence and ethics..so fingers crossed!
December 2, 2013 at 3:01 pm #149156@razmataz feel you brother , to think i would fail not because of my knowledge but because of poor time management and the question on ethics , man it was so simple and i did not even get to it , the feeling is terrible . still lets hope for the best π
December 2, 2013 at 3:06 pm #149158@emmalin77 yup should have done that , but i trusted my gut and thought to myself that i ve got it under control , bad choice π
December 2, 2013 at 3:07 pm #149161oh dear! fingers crossed anyway!
December 2, 2013 at 3:11 pm #149166@emmalin77 yup …..hope is all we are left with now
December 2, 2013 at 3:28 pm #149177Not really sure what I thought about it… A lot to read and consider, and too little thinking time. Brain scrambled. Here’s hoping for a pass.
December 2, 2013 at 3:38 pm #149183Time management was a serious issue here. It’s like we have no planning time other than the 15 minutes were are given at the start of the paper… I started with questions 4 and 5 then went to question 1. I left out question 2 completely. I’m sure others haven’t been as slow as me, but i doubt even those who finished the paper could say the paper was fair in terms of time.
December 2, 2013 at 3:54 pm #149192AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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what did you write for the question 2 part (a) and (b)?
December 2, 2013 at 4:00 pm #149196AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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what did you write on ROMM on 1st questions?
December 2, 2013 at 4:03 pm #149199AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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Benfits. Adds credibility in obtaining bank loan. Experitise of assurance providers, as the directors have not aquired the company previousaly .
December 2, 2013 at 4:03 pm #149200It is a very subjective paper, what you think is right may be wrong or vice versa..
December 2, 2013 at 4:07 pm #149203A couple of my ROMM’s were:
FX movements
Goodwill may not be calculated correctly
Disposal of Sub may still be included in YE assets
Disposal of Sub may be masking Related Party Transactions
Going concern assumption without distribution centre
Inventory recorded at selling price – risk that assets overstated
Inventory in vehicle industry may need written down if held too long due to tech changesProbably got these all wrong, but oh well…
December 2, 2013 at 4:08 pm #149204I know that feel bro.
December 2, 2013 at 4:10 pm #149206hi , what was the ethical issue in part c apart from valuation service not allowed for listed clients ?. why were those numbers given ?.
December 2, 2013 at 4:13 pm #149208yea if they ignore grammar
December 2, 2013 at 4:13 pm #149209AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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I think they were given so you could calculate materiality of the actuarial valuation to total assets, and then state it is not material in value….but it is in nature, due the complexity of the calculation….I think
December 2, 2013 at 4:14 pm #149210what was q2 testing p7 or p4 . I could not figure out what to write, done it last 5 min i thought it might be asking procedures, I only wrote 2 lines agreed upon enquires and analytical . did think about writing org structure, ratios etc but no time .
Could some tell me if I will get 1/2 or 1 mark for those 2 lines.
December 2, 2013 at 4:15 pm #149212hope you pass
December 2, 2013 at 4:17 pm #149213AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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I think…it is ok but depends on the marker who mark it… Good ;uck to all of you………….
December 2, 2013 at 4:18 pm #149215For Q2
a) Benefits – Due diligence review will ascertain whether the target company is in a fit financial state and is not saddled with debts. Also ascertains whether the target is appropriate with a competitive advantage in its business environment (no point buying a company which is useless). Third point – can’t remember
b) I found this quite tricky, threw me off!! I wrote about profitability over the various years, using the operating margin as a ratio. Recommended the SOFP be available so can calculate ROCE. Also requested that a break down of the COS was available to determine if GP margin and Operating margin were rising in line with each other.
Solvency – Calculated the interest cover for the various years and also requested information on the loans that were being serviced as the finance cost didn’t change – was this a fixed repayment, interest only or cap & interest? SOFP required for appropriate liquidity.
Ownership – are the founders on a contract after aquisition? Cannot control them as an asset as they are people.
Premises – following acquisition, what will the rent cost on commercial basis, how will this affect the profit.
Revenue Recognition – Were the two year products split evenly over life of contract?
Database – Has this been recorded as in intangible, cannot be as internally generated even though generates an income
Not sure what else I wrote for Q2.December 2, 2013 at 4:18 pm #149217how could i calculate materiality it only had plan assets and plan liab figures. initially I thought it was modified opnion so I could write about whether matter has been resolved. but then it was unmodified opinion 6 marks for this part , I hope I can full marks in part a and b
December 2, 2013 at 4:24 pm #149219Q1 i totally got a black out!
When it says risk of material misstatement, it is FS risk ( Inherent risk and control risk), can we include accounting standards? such as isa 21 for retranslation, stock wrongly accounted, not in line with ias 2 etc? please advise.
The paper was tough!!!
Insha Allah, I will pass…
Thanks for helping!!
December 2, 2013 at 4:24 pm #149220Due diligence as prdicted..Additional information..me wrote…Statement of Financaical Position Statement of Cash Flow ..Market reputation etc…due diligence was about ..negative assurance…not an audit opinion…did well in q#2..
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