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- June 6, 2014 at 9:24 pm #174868AnonymousInactive
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I also did the variance question. Praised them on operational versus planning variance as it will help in identifying whether or not the managers were efficient. Despite all that there were issues the annual budget brought as the environment was changing constantly. For e.g. quarterly changes in price made it a very dynamic macro environment and thus required to flex the budget to give a better comparison. Also, limited participation from managers due to command and control which staff seem to be happy doesn’t really seem to help as the managers waste so much of useful time listening to things for which they could not contribute. Thus the budgetary process was virtually non-value adding.
June 6, 2014 at 9:28 pm #174870AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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I totally love the way you applied CSFs and KPIs on the examiner himself!
June 7, 2014 at 12:18 am #174908I got negative Eva aswell
June 7, 2014 at 2:44 am #174920In Q1 for WACC calculation there was note : debt/equity 30%. I wonder how this should be assumed equity 30% and debt 70% or equity 70 and debt 30? ??
I never met that it is not clearly stated, in all previous questions it was explicit ratio ((( so took time to figure outJune 7, 2014 at 5:28 am #174930AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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I treated debt:equity as 3:10 and took 3/13*cost of debt after tax + 10/13*cost of equity.
Got 12.59% as WACC.
I think debt to equity is different from gearing which is debt to total capital employed.
Anyone with a different view?June 7, 2014 at 5:36 am #174931well done ACCA keep on setting this type of Q .. n one day u would be the richest profession in the world …100 pounds gone,,,,,,
June 7, 2014 at 7:58 am #174937Abdullahmv, my WACC was 13 something %, I also weighted equity by 100/130 and debt by 30/130, but I think cost of debt was given pre-tax, therefore cost of debt for WACC was kd x (1-T).
Can you remember whether cost of debt was pre-tax?
I do remember precisely though, 30% gearing was debt to equity.June 7, 2014 at 8:25 am #174938AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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Pre-tax cost of debt was provided. Tax was 25%. Cost of debt, pre-tax was 6.5% and cost of equity given as 15%.
June 7, 2014 at 8:48 am #174943Abdullahmv thanks for the details.
Meaning WACC is:Equity: 15% x 100/130 = 11.54%
Debt: 6.5% x 0.75=4.875% x 30/130 = 1.125%
wacc: 12.665%Looks like your WACC of 12.59 is closer then mine of 13 something:-)
Good luck anyway.June 7, 2014 at 9:17 am #174945AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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You don’t have to remember the thing, the exam paper is now uploaded on the ACCA website.
https://www.accaglobal.com/content/dam/acca/global/PDF-students/acca/p5/exampapers/P5-2014-jun-q.pdf
Pre-tax it was. I can’t recall if I took 30/130 or 30/100, nevertheless my WACC was also somewhere around 12.5% or so.
The EVA calculation I found tough, because there was not many ways to arrive at a figure for say, impairment of goodwill, or economic profit. I hope the examiner gives credit for my attempted calculation!
June 7, 2014 at 9:29 am #174947AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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exactly, might as well have a whole news paper… they make us feel like giving up
June 7, 2014 at 10:39 am #174955Is pre tax not already with tax removed? You shouldn’t jhave put 1-30. I got 7% WACC !
Please someone say you got the same! 🙂
June 7, 2014 at 10:47 am #174958I’ve messed this up aswell? I calculated WACC as:
(15.7% x 30%) + (6.5% x 30%) = 7% WACC ?
June 7, 2014 at 10:54 am #174961AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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Hey “fenechbrian” I did a similar thing to you but I adjusted for the tax in the cost of debt part. Kicking myself didn’t read the 30% debt/equity bit carefully.
June 7, 2014 at 10:56 am #174962Dammit!! Because I thought that d/e has already taken into account the d/d+e or other way round.
I’m going to fail with flying colours! 🙂
June 7, 2014 at 11:05 am #174965AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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For that part I would imagine you would get loads of half marks for stating assumptions and components for EVA. So WACC marks would probably be worth 2-3 marks max. So not lost yet.
June 7, 2014 at 11:16 am #174968Just to prove it’s all about the wording! In real life you just clarify this! .. Pointless tricks!
June 7, 2014 at 12:55 pm #174988AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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Could those who tried Q2 share how they calculated the economies of the pilot BPR project?
June 7, 2014 at 1:55 pm #175010I got same 12…somfing…as wacc, but could not find information for the marketing to capitalise and so was silent on that.
June 7, 2014 at 2:03 pm #175011pre tax means before tax, which means tax is yet to be applied and therefore has to be applied…I guess buck of the marks for the eva calculation will lie on calculating the wacc.
June 7, 2014 at 2:09 pm #175013ROTFL….
June 7, 2014 at 2:49 pm #175023AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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They are both 13% to the nearest whole percentage.
June 7, 2014 at 5:01 pm #175054AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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Does anyone think Acca would be lenient on the marking because of ambiguity of some questions especially question 1a?
June 7, 2014 at 6:52 pm #175065Sharon..While I agree with the ambiguity of most of the questions, question 1a was a mirror image of question 1a in june 2012 exam so examiner will argue we should have looked at past questions etc…damn!
June 7, 2014 at 7:00 pm #175067It’s a hard case challenging the ambiguity of question 1a), I know in hindsight it’s alot easier than in an exam pressure situation but checking the exam question again I think it is clear what the requirement is. Evaluate the performance report (strengths v weaknesses) rather than Evaluate the current performance of the Company. I only figured this out after checking the financial information provided in the question and realising that there is not much to comment on given 1) lack of financial data provided and 2) budget v actual variances were minimal in the report
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