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- December 8, 2011 at 10:34 am #50984
Post your comments about December 2011 P5 exam.
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[polldaddy poll="5737392"]December 8, 2011 at 11:05 am #91249AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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aahhhhhhhhh time constraint 🙁
December 8, 2011 at 11:38 am #91250AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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So what was examined this time?
December 8, 2011 at 12:11 pm #91251AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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Q1 Expected value and risk & uncertainty
Q2 Performance Pyramid
Q5 a) Quality Cost
b) Kaizen Costing
c) JIT
Q3 and Q4 ask other student ……… 🙁December 8, 2011 at 12:32 pm #91252AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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Q1, 35 marks, Q2 25, & 20 each for the rest.
I did the exam backwards, and found it ok. I did Q5 & Q4, but cant recall what Q4 was. I managed to answer all questions, but didnt complete them all(ie enough points). There was a big 19 marks in Q1 for calculations. I left it till last & didnt have time to think about it properly. I put down some numbers, but probably only scored a few marks. I guessed the Performance Pyramid was coming up, and learnt an anagram the day before, which was lucky.
Oh, and Q1 computational said perform the weights & measures(or something similar) in risk & uncertainty. It was an odd & unexpected phrase asked, and put me off a bit.
P2(mind musher) & P1 next
And a mighty big THANKS to opentuition.com for the video lectures, I definitely would have failed if I had only relied on the Kaplan course(key topic videos are pathetic).
December 8, 2011 at 1:04 pm #91253AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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i thought this diet was ok but seems that most vote goes to Disaster. So i chose to flow with the masses.
q4 is about the Albacore or Albastore or something. It talks about the head office having a traditional budget approach and uses actual vs budget (variance analysis) as a KPI for the store manager.
December 8, 2011 at 1:19 pm #91254AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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It was my second attempt.. and I found June11 much easier than Dec11.
Requirements were confusing. I also started backwards, it was ok, but less time was for Q1 as I already knew that I could not write much especially for b part.again hope for 50 marks 🙂
December 8, 2011 at 1:21 pm #91255GUYS GUESS WHAT! I think i had the best P paper yet..It was such a little cutie!! Literally minutes before the exam I was shaking due to the difficulty of level set by this NEw examiner..I think God Mighty heard my prayers this time..Had a paper that I can hopefully say I SHOULD pass BUT
19 mark q1 (b) I just wrote all the EV and dec rules and talked about it..tried the working but I know I messed up 🙁 Still shouldnt fail me right 🙁December 8, 2011 at 1:23 pm #91256btw q4 was based on BUDGETING NOT KPIs… that was 3
December 8, 2011 at 1:31 pm #91257AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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what the hell question one was 🙁 i knw rest ov ppr but that 19 marks its making me cry 🙁
December 8, 2011 at 1:42 pm #91258AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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that 19 marks in Q1 hurts!!!
December 8, 2011 at 1:49 pm #91260Lack of time….( I’ d like to write much more…
December 8, 2011 at 2:02 pm #91261AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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I recall now, Q4, was both some budgeting, some KPI & mostly performance measurement, in a discussive nature.
A company had a poor simple system of bonuses & appraisal, and we were asked to advise if it was fair(which it wasnt), so it was also a beyond budgeting question also for me, as I went down that line.
I liked that question, although I did repeat some points from Q5, which couldnt be helped. I forgot to do calculations as I didnt need them, but went back and squashed in comments that related to the figures.
December 8, 2011 at 2:10 pm #91262AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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I need to knom the answer of those who vote ok, regarding Q1 b
I think it killed me big time?
December 8, 2011 at 2:13 pm #91263I started with Q.4 and Q5 next, then i went to question from hell. The 19mks allocated to Q.1 b was frightful, i started panicking, cld nt think straight, but at least wrote smthg on report-risk (cnt even remember if it was part of Q.2or Q1.). Not sure abt passing or failing. Section B overall was attainable, but Sect A was rubbish. I’m tired of ACCA now. Still hv P2+P3 next week. Oh God help me!
December 8, 2011 at 2:16 pm #91264ppl any one who knows is there any percentile system in ACCA??…n if the paper is difficult do they assess it leniently??……it was more than a disaster!!!!
December 8, 2011 at 2:25 pm #91265AnonymousInactive- Topics: 1
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those who forfeited q1 19m think bout this
the question already provide u hint on how to assess it
saw the table like thing with probability?
u should think of Expected Value already
if u create a table for EV
u can also calculate Maximax, Maximin, Minimax Regret for it also
December 8, 2011 at 2:28 pm #91266AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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thought it was going ok till i got to questin 1. would be happy with 10/35 for it. i talked about risk averse, neutral and positive. talked about accepting, reducing,transferring and avoiding. total waffle.
December 8, 2011 at 2:37 pm #91267AnonymousInactive- Topics: 1
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@fahecy2
in fact I thought of TARA for Q1 ii)
but then I saw probability then i changed my mind
well I only talk bout risk averse and risk seeker attitude
(shit… I spelled it as adverse)
December 8, 2011 at 2:41 pm #91268q! 19 marks… i did everything from ev to maxi min mini max rules… though im not sure about it, i dont remember what i did with Q2. Q4..must be okay..im not sure..q5b..Kaizan costing? i think i missed reading that in my studies…nobody else seems to have a problem with it..:( …fingers crossed!
December 8, 2011 at 2:42 pm #91269AnonymousInactive- Topics: 1
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Kaizen means Total Quality Management
still I don’t know how a)b)c) can affect the standard costing system/ employee management and etc
December 8, 2011 at 2:45 pm #91270AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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@nileshrata said:
that 19 marks in Q1 hurts!!!Agreed, though previously there have been fewer marks for such a large calculation, so from that point, it was fair to give more marks, and therefore, more time allocated to do it.
Anyway, dont think about the 19, think about the other 81, you only want 50 either way.December 8, 2011 at 2:48 pm #91271I am also from the ones that panicked with Q1 – left it last, started calculating something – I did some expected values, but did not manage to do the table, tried something for maximin, maximux, a total disater with this question. I did Q 4 and 5 and 2 but have in idea if it was OK or not. Was so upset with Q1…..I hope just to be able to get 50 marks – that is all I pray for!
December 8, 2011 at 2:49 pm #91272AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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tzxsean/redrose
how u create table on EV. did u calculate based on vc plus fixed cost, number of demand…………just curious
disaster ……huhhhhhh
anyone attempting Q3…….
December 8, 2011 at 2:51 pm #91273I have no clue what ACCA examiner expect from us?
Sorry to say, they are not expecting us to become accountants/analysts… All we have to do is to speed up..
Whats the point of wiriting exams, when we cannot even read/understand the scnerios… If i had 3 hour 3 minites to write this exam, i would have done wonders.. but thanks to ACCA.. they are preparing athletes, not accountants! - AuthorPosts
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