*** P4 June 2012 Exam was … Comments and Instant Poll ***

No offence Hafeez, but I have answered his questions in that style and still failed. The point is that question 1 in all of his exam is made to be very confusing. There is too much information in there and you have to look for the bits you need. There lies the problem, you spend too much time looking for those bits and you end up wasting time
Question one usually carries the most mark, so if you cannot complete in the time frame, you are definately failing. Even though you finished option and question 2.
Its not like we are all stupid, but in the real world, it takes people days to analyse invesment data. I still don’t understand why his scenarios can not be a bit straight forward so we answer questions.
we were to ungear a diff company and regear another company. Did he have to make the other company confusing by mention that the beta we needed was not pat of the one he had given?
Well I guess it is normal to make exams very dificult but at least consider that there are people who are slow in reading and people who have to think before they write.
To me, the exam was rubbish as usual, and i am begining to learn his style – which is to make students sweat. Well, goodluck to everybody

One more thing, I am not sure about informing everybody about the questions you just sat. Cus I believe there are some locations that sit this exam just after us or there about. So if they are about to take it, they will have an advantage over us and then revise the topics before they sit. That is my opinion anyway

Well had a terrible exam and negative feeling dec 2011 and failed with 45. this time i got good feeling, not saying the exams went good, I feel like I m on the edge. Hoping to pass but did find the paper easy compared to last two times.

Hello everyone.

I am a P4 veteran now, as this was my 3rd attempt! I use BPP material and home study. Self-teaching left me very under-cooked for my first 2 attempts, I bombed and got ~30% both times. This time round I think I may have done enough and have the following recommendations which I felt were the difference this time:

1. This paper was much much easier than the last 2!
2. Yes, Q1 is the most demanding, however the biggest tip I can possibly give is to do this Q FIRST not last as a few people have suggested. The easy Qs (ie 4 and 5) are still there afterwards. Q1 actually wasnt that complicated as a result of just taking MORE time.
4. Of course there is still time maintenance. Just move on from the longer Qs when you must!
5. This exam has probably the lowest pass rate (and i’d imagine the lowest retake pass rate too) because the Qs are not easy to predict. In my 3 exams, the Qs have been varied and its been difficult to revise as a result. As they were covered in June 11 and Dec 12, I guessed that options/futures etc weren’t going to be covered whereas BSM would. So I got lucky. I think on the whole you need some luck in this exam.

So good luck everyone

I have sat this exam now three times and i don’t feel that i can pass this exam. Covered the entire book, exam kit and all the assessments.. i felt prepared for the exam this time. I have never studied so hard for an exam. I started the day after i found out i failed. However i reckon i will have another resit. Just not sure if i should just change subject

@fongky2 said:
for all those who has attempted P4 the 3rd time and still fail, for god’s sake, change subject. P4 is not for you. This paper is designed for geniuses. Do not be a hero. You may turn out to be zero in the end. If you do have an urge to re-take again, i think you should engage a super good lecturer to guide you through. Or maybe engage Shirshir Malde himself.

Hehehehe P4 is not for geniuses alone – even those who have passed this paper in the past can still fail it if they were ever to write it again.
The syllabus is huge, the questions unpredictable and long and the time is severely limited.
People fail not because they don’t have the intellect or technical skill, people fail because they have not mastered the correct exam technique for paper P4.

the only P4 is the paper which pulled me back to studies…! keep it up shishr… ! make it more challenging and technical tooOOo……..

worst exam of the whole ACCA qualification.. i should have chosen another option. just hope i get a 50.

@abdelbagi2004 said:
i want to do this paper p4 first time in dec 2012 as i attempt p7 3 times
dec 2009 33 mark dec10 27 dec11 16 mark
i pass p2 june 2009 57 p6 june 2010 50
so i want to do p4 not p7 or p5
when i reed your coments i confuzed
thanks

why not p5? i pass this paper first time. a clear pass 56 marks. i studied part time class, BPP text and practice past exam questions a lot plus reading and understand the examiner’s technical articles, comments and guidance religiously.
I flop p4 twice. 42 marks first time and 31 marks on second attempt. from the way you write your comments, i think you need to brush up your english to pass p7. personally, i think you need to be very good at maths to pass p4. large part of the answers require computation unlike p7 which is almost entirely narrative. the choice is yours to decide. good luck.