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- December 5, 2013 at 5:19 pm #150730
A replica of question 1
https://www.accaglobal.com/content/dam/acca/global/pdf/SA_aug10_examinerapP4.pdf
December 6, 2013 at 4:20 pm #151122AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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exactly i also calculat wacc 9 %
December 7, 2013 at 6:02 am #151407AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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i also think. PE is Undiscounted Cash Flows after the Option has been exercised…as BSOP formulas does the discounting…..
December 7, 2013 at 10:35 am #151451Question 1&2 was ok but got stuck with 3. Not sure to go through.
December 7, 2013 at 2:14 pm #151493question on islamic finance was the easiest… i think i can score all 12marks in that.
December 7, 2013 at 4:18 pm #151515AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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Oviyan excluded market value of debt in calculations. Makonis has debt ( as evidenced by different Be and Ba, unlike Nuvola). The debt has to be calculated first in my opinion. That give a slightly different discount rate. 8.887% I think, which was rounded to 9% anyway. I am surprised that I am only one who did this, probably means I am wrong. But the question said market values, not market values of equity.
December 7, 2013 at 4:52 pm #151528I registered on this forum to comment on ludacrisam81. What a nice comments! I believe you have a marking experience. I keep wondering why people discuss so much about specific answers such as my wacc is this or that. Markers do not mark answers at all. They don’t care, they care about your understanding of the course in general which is reflected by how you present your work.
December 8, 2013 at 4:58 am #151585AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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Makonis Ve =1.218 Billion
Nuvola Ve =$480 Million
Since Nuvola’s Ba and Be are the same Nuvola has no debt.
Makonis has debt.
Using Asset beta formulaAnd assuming Bd =0
Makonis pre acquisition Debt =507.5 Million.
So combined market values =1,218+507.5+480=2205.5 million.
The question says asset betas are the proportion to current market values ( not market value of equity, market values) so we need to take the whole amount.
Multiplying $1,725.5 by 0.9 and $480 by 1.2 and dividing by 2205.5 we get Asset Beta of combined company at 0.9653
Regearing at 40:60 debt using 20% tax rate and same formula above, and assuming debt is risk free ( it is not, it is 2.55% above risk free rate), we get
Beta Equity = 1.48.
Using CAPM we get Ke =12.36
And WACC = (12.36*0.6) + (4.55 *0.4*0.8) = 8.872%
Which is rounded to 9% in any case.
I have not found a single person who did it this way, so possibly my method has a flaw but I cannot see it.December 8, 2013 at 5:44 am #151588AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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Great! I did till the calculation of debt for 1 Co. as you mentioned and calculate the average Beta asset and work out the Ke under CAPM formula…I was about to ask if someone calculate the debt for 1 Co. Now I have my answer and feel more confident on passing this paper!
December 8, 2013 at 5:57 am #151590AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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Can somedody tell me what calculation must have been done with the 2 growth rate given in Q3 relevant to FCF? one was for Y1-Y4 if I can still remember it right, then there was another growth rate…I got stuck with these growth rate but I did my calculation for the debt of 1 Co, weighted Beta of combined Co and use of CAPM formula and WACC.
December 9, 2013 at 1:37 pm #151790AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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i have little to say on this paper. fingers crossed for a pass
December 9, 2013 at 1:39 pm #151791AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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That’s the way i did and got WACC of 9%. hoping that was correct ooo
December 9, 2013 at 2:06 pm #151794Very sad. I missed the road and so caught in the jam. I was late by almost one hour. Three months of work spoiled by one mistake.
December 9, 2013 at 2:07 pm #151796Asked for extra time, but was not given.
December 9, 2013 at 2:09 pm #151797If I can still pass, i have to be proud?
December 9, 2013 at 2:48 pm #151802I was late by one hour, because of road confusion.
December 10, 2013 at 10:10 am #152129AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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Fair paper but time was the factor
December 10, 2013 at 5:34 pm #152211Very sad Ramesh. I am not happy for you. May God help you pass.
December 11, 2013 at 12:39 am #152294Thanks Muhammad for your concern.
December 11, 2013 at 2:25 am #152301This is what I thought about the paper:
Q1. The option was a put option and pa was equivalent to the PVs of cashflows from years 3 to 5. I used the formula:
P=PeN(-d2)e^-rt _PaN(-d1) Coz I didnt have much time to calculate the call option first for the other formula. The risk free rate was the rate of treasury bills, that was, I think 4% ?Q2. The tricky part was recognising that it was an investment and not borrowing, therefore buy futures (for futures contract) and buy call options. I think it was an unbelievable question coz I was expecting something tougher than that. Hopefully I wasn’t mistaken about any of the information given *fingers crossed*
Q3. Jeez! I forgot the synergy benefits so am completely hopeless on this one but am hoping I’ll get some marks for the weighted asset betas and the equity betas.
Overall the paper was easy.December 11, 2013 at 8:03 am #152332BSOP only discounts the exercise price with e^-rt as the discount factor so Pa was supposed to be the discounted cash flows..at least that’s what I think.
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