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- September 10, 2015 at 10:43 am #270990September 10, 2015 at 2:49 pm #271053AnonymousInactive
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Sooo.. who else had a panic attack reading the first question?
September 10, 2015 at 3:03 pm #271056Me! Thought I’d opened the wrong question. Where’s the Pestel/5 Forces etc?!
September 10, 2015 at 3:04 pm #271057AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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Did panic too but had to contain myself. That was really an unpredictable wa6 of testing process improvement! Ran out of tome and ended up leaving part b.
September 10, 2015 at 3:08 pm #271059Too much time pressured with the out-of-the blue first question. took a good amount of reading time to understand all the questions and ended up leaving few marks. 🙁 Could have done better with better time management i guess. Guys Lets be positive about it now 🙂
September 10, 2015 at 3:15 pm #271060Looked at question 1 and went what!! But stayed calm, was actually a nice 20 marker, just follow the template for the other one.
Outsourcing financial case was tough, figures were all over the place and weren’t that clear.
Mendelow is friendly.
Q4. was F5.
Q3. Obscure too, F5 stuff
Not much P3 stuff examined which is unfair to some considering the amount of information that has to be covered.
September 10, 2015 at 3:28 pm #271064AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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Tough paper.. very lengthy and a lot to write. Qu1 was too long. It took me 30 mins to read and understand the scenario.
September 10, 2015 at 3:35 pm #271065To be honest, I never read all the scenario in q1, its too long, just scan it and go to the requirements straight away and see what they are looking for. Time management in this exam I feared to be the toughest but todays paper I finished it all with a minute to spare. How well I finished it is another matter…best of luck everyone.
September 10, 2015 at 3:43 pm #271068Wasn’t too bad apart from being really time pressured! Question one was straight forward with following the example they used. The calcs to outsource or not were quite simple. Quite a few easy marks I hope!!
Question 2 about the it package was ok and question 4 wasn’t too bad. Unfortunately I ran out of time to do 4b and also couldn’t remember abc from my f5 days!!
September 10, 2015 at 4:45 pm #271101AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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Can Someone tell me where are all the Important CORE AREAS of p3 in this exam ?
I didnt see any PESTEL, 5 FORCES , Porter Diamond, BCG matrix , SWOT ???
4.5pages of Case Study to read, to understand in such an Exam ! It was a difficult one, going for a resit in december for sure :/ :/ . Even Left question 4b blank. :/September 10, 2015 at 4:53 pm #271103No one seems to have done Q3. Now I’m wondering if i chose right. Q3 was ok for me. As soon as i saw the calcs in Q4, i just did not bother
September 10, 2015 at 4:56 pm #271105I too was confused….no core models that I learned were on there….also was two of the questions relating to projects??? Resit for me for sure ? …I found this exam very different from practice papers!!
September 10, 2015 at 5:08 pm #271109AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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Q1 was a nightmare…Too much to digest…
September 10, 2015 at 5:15 pm #271111Study well on those popular models but they ended up with no-show in the exam. I have no idea with the prime motive of the examiner. They do play off all the P3 students as well as lecturer.
September 10, 2015 at 5:33 pm #271113Question 1 too long, What are they really testing us on this paper, is it speed or knowledge. if time was permiting i think it was ok. i only answered first question and part of second question
September 10, 2015 at 6:16 pm #271118It was predicted that political matrix will be questioned but what did not expect was that it would be linked with the Harmon theory which require more time to think and apply to the scenario. Previous exam at least some what asked J, S W theory which is the core subject of P3 paper but it wasn’t the case this time. Again , Q2 SmatStore is also based on Harmon theory. It doesn’t make sense to focus on one theory (Harmon) in the paper. Although section B is reasonable questions which is somewhat console the heavy questions required in Q1. It seems like the examiner is now drifting away from his conventional way of setting the Q1. June15 paper also seem to be more time consuming to do Q1. Isn’t best to have Q1 case written on each side of the paper or try to make font smaller and give on one sheet because it’s annoying to turning back and forth to read the scenario which is also taking time.
September 10, 2015 at 6:25 pm #271122I to did Q3 and did not find it to bad. From what I remember that J Tully bloke seemed to have his wires crossed re what a CSF and KPI was. I just worked through one at a time and discussed why he was wrong.
Q1 was a shocker ):
September 10, 2015 at 8:51 pm #271132AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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For q1 what were the classifications you found based on the models provided???
I think second one was political hot box and based on harmons matrix it is high high! You agree??Also how you classify the stakeholders based on mendelows framework??
September 10, 2015 at 9:02 pm #271135What a disaster. If you’re going to go so far away from the conventional approach, why do it in Q1A and why give it 20 marks? I didn’t even bother doing Q1A, Ironically after I handed in my question paper I read the question again and it was probably the easiest 20 marks ever besides for the time pressure. But I bet it threw a lot of people.
Stakeholder theory was simple enough but only 4 marks for the time it needed was harsh. Q2/3/4 were ok ish but not really P3 questions besides Q2 and that was a bit of a project management hybrid as he talked about project sponsor etc so I was paranoid I was on the wrong track with that aswell. Oh well, good luck all but I’ll be back in December 🙁
September 10, 2015 at 11:12 pm #271156Very unfair and not balance on the core modules. It seemed like testing nerves and panic response rather than P3 core syllabus.
September 11, 2015 at 9:08 am #271208At first i was knocked off balance by Q1,so i answered Q2 first.
Then I came back to Q1 and thank God, it then made sense. Was actually an easy 20marks, but time consuming. Just follow their pattern for the Compost form given.
Generally i think it was a better paper for me than the June diet. I pray for a pass mark.
September 11, 2015 at 9:21 am #271214I found it easier compared to the q in June.
For September,Q4 was for CFS, KIPs and mission statement , this is core to the exam and question was set up in an understandable manner.I really liked it as it was a very clear requirement – critically discuss..so no need to wonder if there was something wrong in the statetemt, you are told to criticaly discuss. Similar for q3.
However, Q1 was nightmare. I had less than an 1 hour and didnt manage to read and understand the audit part a…it sounded as f8…audit soo i was like really..answered only the outsoursing ans shareholder part.
September 11, 2015 at 9:57 am #271226Very time pressured only managed to scribble a few points for Q3, Question 1a seemed far too easy for 20 marks? They gave you the pro-forma for the report and the models to use?!
Was the 2nd part of question 2 the 6 I’s?
September 11, 2015 at 11:40 am #271257Q1a did at first seemed ridiculous.. however using the opentuition exam technique tips, it stated to make sure you read the question First then relate it to the case study as you go through it..
in the end, Q1a was really easy…
the first project was to get rid of.. the office consumables supply (simple logic) -could make rent or profit on building used for it, and save money on labour costs vs getting the stuff cheaper from bigger outlets…
the second project was a core business of the council and highly complex (looking after homeless) and they needed to improve the clerical and IT processes in order to get to 95% accomodation and therefore more funding from government…what seemed like a shock level of difficulty seemed like a gimme from the examiners once it was completed.. they even provided the Appendix template and stated to use the template for the processes… confusion set in, in terms of the low level of difficulty for P3 paper for this one…
there is always a chance that i screwed it all up and it turns into a disaster.. but on face value, was rather easy.. i think that maybe i forgot to include words like bespoke IT solution (i wish i had of !!!), and for this i may lose a few marks here and there.. in the end one only needs 50% all up 🙂
Q1b was also ok by the end…
using 35k households at 80% usage gives 28K households..i did the figures for present situation and i ended up with about 350k rev minus about 50k (fixed) and 50K (variable) and 200k (collection) costs giving about 50K annual profit to council, but with 1.5mill to be paid for new capex, thats about 30 year payback ie; impossible..
then when i did the figures for No outsourcing by with New plant, it was only slightly better..
350k rev minus about 40k (fixed) and 40K (variable) and 200k (collection) costs (made up of 60k fixed and 140k variable ($5 per 28k households)) giving about 70K annual profit to council.. 1.5mill with 70k annual gives some 21 years payback..then i realised that the objective of the question seemed to be, to evaluate financial data and effectively give the Opposition to Outsourcing a good factual reason for their stance..
so i realised that with outsourcing the 28k household users of which only 50% would be expected to pay due to survey, would have to pay $35 annually to Green Deal outsourcer etc…
so i went back to the second No Outsourcing but with new plant scenario, and stated that if the 28k households were to pay the $5 variable cost of collection annually to the council (as opposed to the $35 Green Deal option for which only 50% were willing to pay) that the council would then have 350-40-40-60=210k per yr profit on the plant.. 1.5mill with 210k profit per yr gives a very good and plausible 7.14 year payback..
i hope i got the figures and assumption of the objective of the question correct !!!
the part about why it would be difficult to bring back outsourced to inhouse, is simply the capex and running costs for which finding the funding within the council would probably be impossible.. because on top of that, they would have to get the expertised workers again, who have previously been fired or moved to Outsourcer etc… so i thought it was simply due to enormous costs facing council to bring it back in that would by that stage be prohibitive..
1c or d-the last part on the 3 stakeholders.. i had the regulater Ofpro as high power, low interest (cos of their 1000 business processes to cover) so a Keep Satisfied;
the employees and High interest but low power so Keep Informed.. and the CEO as Keep Happy cos he/she would be high power and high interest (due to potential of losing such a prestigious title and salary)September 11, 2015 at 11:46 am #271258Q2a about the CRM software, i simply listed the stuff about package vs bespoke, then suitability of software to company, and then the supplier check that needs to be done, and potentially using a consultant to run the entire thing with a formal tender process etc…
then tied the problems with all the above… was very straight forward i thought.. i just listed all the points from opentuition slides for these items 🙂then Q2b i put in the stuff under CRM of the slide pack on opentuition..
e-commerce, e-marketing, automated sales, intelligence then used for individualisation, and knowledge management in order to improve and create an existing relationship so that customer goes from one-time customer to client to potential enthusiast and advocate etc.. didnt push it to partner level.. haha.. again, all from the opentuition slide packs…again, as with Q1, i hope that i didnt structurally misinterpret something, otherwise it was also rather easy..
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