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- December 12, 2011 at 8:31 pm #91814AnonymousInactive
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So factors effecting the price, last question.. What did you all write..??
December 12, 2011 at 9:10 pm #91815AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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paper was very easy but bit lengthy …did well hope to get v gud marks
December 12, 2011 at 9:56 pm #91816AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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Hi, can somebody please remind me of the exact question 1 (b) requirement ? I wrote a report on the 3 parts of strategic choice – basis of com, strategic direction & methodology. I did not use SAF unfortunately, did anybody else take my approach??
December 12, 2011 at 10:50 pm #91817AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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rafay ali
I think thats wrong/quote the article. Examiner doesnt HATE SWOT because Its part of the study guide. Infact SWOT seems to be the most effective model here in q1 (16 / 4 – 4each) as for all those who used PORTER PESTEL DIAMOND blah blah I think u guys just wasted a lot of time . I used SW and OT for internal and external and think managed well. I had trouble in 1b , but rest was good and hoping a pass.
I think the paper examines the application of frameworks. SWOT is not a framework you’re just naming the words in the scenario. Again we are examined in application of models.
December 12, 2011 at 11:51 pm #91818I think thats wrong/quote the article. Examiner doesnt HATE SWOT because Its part of the study guide. Infact SWOT seems to be the most effective model here in q1 (16 / 4 – 4each) as for all those who used PORTER PESTEL DIAMOND blah blah I think u guys just wasted a lot of time . I used SW and OT for internal and external and think managed well. I had trouble in 1b , but rest was good and hoping a pass.
I think the paper examines the application of frameworks. SWOT is not a framework you’re just naming the words in the scenario. Again we are examined in application of models.
what gives you the idea that swot is not a framework/model? the “WORDS” are infact an applicable tool for assessing env, as per the study guide. So is “SAF” AND and “TARA” (risk approach) etc. Anyhow I dont think we have to justify/agree on something amongst ourselves rather than convey it to the examiner. I just said using the models mentioned aren’t a charismatic element in answers since it eats up alot of time and definitely ppl mostly mess up the application of such models (NAMING them isn’t anything- unlike most candidates assume)
I just used a strategy to get that part done as quick as I could, as its given in marking scheme “1 valid point = 1 mark” thats all I need.
Hope all who deserve pass 🙂December 12, 2011 at 11:53 pm #91819@macg said:
Hi, can somebody please remind me of the exact question 1 (b) requirement ? I wrote a report on the 3 parts of strategic choice – basis of com, strategic direction & methodology. I did not use SAF unfortunately, did anybody else take my approach??It had two parts 1- acq 2- franchise. AND YES I DIDNT USE SAF either 🙁 I couldnt even think of it . Just made a dumb report assessing about 6 points for acq, skipped franchise and concluded (ran out of time ) 🙁 so yea this was my worst part of the paper rest was fine so hoping it wont become a curse for me ..
December 13, 2011 at 1:10 am #91820AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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@saadain said:
So factors effecting the price, last question.. What did you all write..??I wrote according to article written by Ken Garrett (Business Strategy and Pricing Feb 2011 article) Influence on price : mission objective,pricing objective, cost,competition, customer and control.
dont know im correct or notDecember 13, 2011 at 1:17 am #91821AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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I was under the impression that the acquisition and franchise Proposal was one strategy? Are people suggesting that each should be dealt with separately? Was the question not to assess gets strategy,which was to acquire and then franchise.
December 13, 2011 at 1:50 am #91822AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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@bingonolan said:
I was under the impression that the acquisition and franchise Proposal was one strategy? Are people suggesting that each should be dealt with separately? Was the question not to assess gets strategy,which was to acquire and then franchise.Yeah, that’s what I thought as well. Those two were interdependent. Raziakstan or whatever the country’s name was…would have given them the bid if they acquired the SOF….
Also, one question…did no one use the balance score card for internal analysis? Would I have been wrong to look at it from that angle? I mentioned the financial aspect with the workings and analysis, the customer perspective (talked about how they were happy with the advertisements and efficient and timely service etc), and the learning and innovation that GET brought about with its computerized systems…Please someone, tell me that is right!
December 13, 2011 at 2:13 am #91823AnonymousInactive- Topics: 1
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in my opinion., SWOT is the best model to use to assess strategic position of the company. It evaluates internal strength and weakness and external opportunities and threats.
December 13, 2011 at 3:01 am #91824A SWOT analysis is regarded as a summary of all the models. The other models/ frameworks detail the specific areas in which the strength/ weakeness etc is found. Someone uploaded study notes in the documents section of forum some time ago and in it u will see that the models like P5F, PESTLE etc. are branches of SWOT. There’s no problem in using SWOT just that your answer may not be as detailed as someone else who used PESTLE who would have individually considered and identified the effects of legislation, government, etc.
I think since the question said using models or frameworks then the requirement would be to use more than 1 model or framework.
Just my thoughts 🙂
December 13, 2011 at 4:33 am #91825Hi guys, what was question 2 part a and b? what was the correct models or frameworks on both parts of the question?
December 13, 2011 at 4:39 am #91826AnonymousInactive- Topics: 1
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2a) cultural web
b) Harmon strategic/process matrixDecember 13, 2011 at 4:56 am #918272a,i talked about the types of organisational culture(power culture,task culture,person culture and role culture)
2b, Used SAF. was out of time so got kind of confused.
Wil i be panalised for using these frameworks?December 13, 2011 at 6:19 am #91828i used PEST and porter’s diamond and financial evaluation(internal) for question 1a… it would be so much easier to answer using SWOT, but it didn’t cross my mind…..
December 13, 2011 at 7:17 am #91829AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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@kabambi said:
2a,i talked about the types of organisational culture(power culture,task culture,person culture and role culture)
2b, Used SAF. was out of time so got kind of confused.
Wil i be panalised for using these frameworks?I did the same for 2a. I didn’t see too much information necessary to apply cultural web (what were the symbols, the stories or rituals)? The case indicated a lot of facts which looked like consequence of power culture and functional (role culture) with little project management.
For 2 b I used the Harmon’s process importance/complexity matrixI didn’t have time to write anything at 1b.. I pray for a 50..
For 2bDecember 13, 2011 at 8:10 am #91830salam to all!
description of the questions is very well put by our friend tuanmuda.
As for me there is a lot to write while there is absolutely a time pressure.I wonder if there is any one who covered most of the points to be written withen the available short time.So except for the time pressure the exam could be considered not very hard.15 minute time is to short to read,annotate,plan etc I for one could not even get the time to read the whole question no 3.but tried to give a reasonable try for b. Any ways wish u all and myself the best.The magic 50!December 13, 2011 at 10:18 am #91831AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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First time i’ve felt time pressured in exam – just kept writing and writing and could not structure. How do they expect us to read , structure and write in that time – this does not make sense, the time only allows for reading and writing – but the scenarios are too long and for slow readers like myself, it’s difficult!
Fingers crossed I pass – this was my first attempt and left work 2 years ago to try and pass all these exams so there is a lot at stake!
May the forces be with everyone!December 13, 2011 at 10:52 am #91832AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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“I think the paper examines the application of frameworks. SWOT is not a framework you’re just naming the words in the scenario. Again we are examined in application of models. “
This cannot be further from the truth, we are examined on our skills in analysising a business or situation. The models are purely a tool to aid this analysis, unless the specifically ask for a model to be used. Do you think the examiner will not give marks if someone used no model for the franchise question, yet used common sense and acumen to evaluate the scenario?
December 13, 2011 at 11:27 am #91833AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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This examiner is really mean. You need to understand a scenario of 3 pages, and understand his questions (a read-between-the-lines style). This is not knowledge that is expected of us students, but a thorough analysis of the examiner, and his approaches. Plus remembering all the models is simply a stupid way to assess the students. I had the impression that ACCA was more professional in this stance – it should be more about knowledge and understanding, less about learning stuff by heart and writing VERY VERY fast!
December 13, 2011 at 12:39 pm #91834@shaunboro said:
“I think the paper examines the application of frameworks. SWOT is not a framework you’re just naming the words in the scenario. Again we are examined in application of models. “This cannot be further from the truth, we are examined on our skills in analysising a business or situation. The models are purely a tool to aid this analysis, unless the specifically ask for a model to be used. Do you think the examiner will not give marks if someone used no model for the franchise question, yet used common sense and acumen to evaluate the scenario?
I think this is a very good comment- models are there to guide you to certain issues but as long as you cover these issues with a model format or without it you are fine. Its about analysising the scenario not remembering words.
December 13, 2011 at 12:41 pm #91835Although when i get results might think differently!! I have never run out of time before in a exam but did this time and felt really pressured and really struggled to format things well. Here hoping what you write you get rewarded for not if your structure is good!
December 13, 2011 at 1:42 pm #91836AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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I used SWOT analysis as a frame to my answer for the first question and used elements of PESTEL for opportunities and threats and financial analysis for strenghts and weaknesses. Didn’t mention five forces or diamond model in part b but concentrated on benefits and disadvantages of aqusition and subsequent franchise.
Question 3 was asking about the details of the project last phase. I think that little knowledge and common sense shoudl be sufficient.
To be frank we could spend another two hours to properly analyse the questions and implement every suitable model. Hopefully, I will pass.December 13, 2011 at 3:06 pm #91837AnonymousInactive- Topics: 1
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how severe will I be penalised if I just use SWOT to analyse 1a) ?
regardless of whether it is the correct model to be used or not
the examiner asked for frameworkS or modelS
December 13, 2011 at 4:46 pm #91838AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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@tzxsean said:
how severe will I be penalised if I just use SWOT to analyse 1a) ?regardless of whether it is the correct model to be used or not
the examiner asked for frameworkS or modelS
You will be fine mate, the plural is just acknowledging the fact that a few models could be used. Its the meat of what your answer which will get you that marks, not SWOT or PESTEL etc headings. I used SWOT, but to do that I had to suggest factors which are covered in PESTEL. As long as you analysed, the tool you use is irrelevant. I often think the tool is there mostly for people without decent analytical skills (me included), as the headings are simply gateways to getting your idea down.
I am hoping for a pass, answered all questions sensibly enough but perhaps lacking in detail. I studied hard, so I know that I will not be letting myself down in that regard and if I need a resit its not through lack of effort.
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