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- June 14, 2013 at 10:26 pm #132271AnonymousInactive
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Gain on step acquisition was obvious, but I might have forgotten not so sure….
Also, I have made a stupid choice between Q3 and Q4.
Let’s hope that I will get the ponts…June 15, 2013 at 8:53 am #132298the over all exam was ok.
In question-1 the goodwill of park was 80
the goodwill of caller was 398
& impairment of proportionate goodwill was 180. (because we had to calculate notional goodwill (80*100/60).June 15, 2013 at 9:00 am #132300NCI was $959m.
June 15, 2013 at 9:12 am #132301<cite>@anamariachi said:</cite>
I got the same figures. So it is either the same mistake, either the same good approach πthe impairment was 180.
because we had to calculate notional goodwill first which was (80*100/60)June 15, 2013 at 11:52 am #132318Dear friends could you help me?
Will I be given full marks for calculation under partial method of goodwil if I used the following proforma –
consideration paid
+ plus NCI share of net assets at acqusition date
– minus all net assets of subs at acquision dateI have found that in some answers the following proforma is given for partial method of goodwil
consideration paid
– minus parent share of subs net assets at acquision dateThe answer will be the same but I am worring about the the proforma which I used
consideration paid
+ NCI share of net assets at acqusition date (NCI % multiplied by net assets at acqusition date)
– all net assets of subs at acquision datePlease, tell me what do you think?
June 15, 2013 at 11:55 am #132319<cite> @mohsinahmed said:</cite>
the over all exam was ok.
In question-1 the goodwill of park was 80
the goodwill of caller was 398
& impairment of proportionate goodwill was 180. (because we had to calculate notional goodwill (80*100/60).think we have the same ans but not for impairment though
June 15, 2013 at 12:15 pm #132320<cite> @saiyan2005 said:</cite>
think we have the same ans but not for impairment thoughDear friends could you help me?
Will I be given full marks for calculation under partial method of goodwil if I used the following proforma β
consideration paid
+ plus NCI share of net assets at acqusition date
– minus all net assets of subs at acquision date
I have found that in some answers the following proforma is given for partial method of goodwil
consideration paid
– minus parent share of subs net assets at acquision date
The answer will be the same but I am worring about the the proforma which I used
consideration paid
+ NCI share of net assets at acqusition date (NCI % multiplied by net assets at acqusition date)
– all net assets of subs at acquision date
Please, tell me what do you think?June 15, 2013 at 2:03 pm #132322AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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Hi, Can I use the current lectures available online to begin study for the Dec 2013 exam? For Papers P2, P3, P4 an P7?
June 15, 2013 at 5:09 pm #132406AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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1st question was fair. Not too sure about the rest
The goodwill had to be grossed up 133 (80 + 53 for NCI)
Impairment of 300 to allocate 80 to sub and 53 to NCI the rest 167 to PPEJune 15, 2013 at 6:53 pm #132412the total impairment was 300. from it we only needed parent,s share of goodwill which was (300*60%) = 180
from 180 figure 80 was to be allocated to goodwill. as a result goodwill was became 0.
the remaining 100 was to be written off from PPE.
thats how it should have done.June 15, 2013 at 7:00 pm #132413<cite> @fg2011 said:</cite>
Dear friends could you help me?
Will I be given full marks for calculation under partial method of goodwil if I used the following proforma β
consideration paid
+ plus NCI share of net assets at acqusition date
– minus all net assets of subs at acquision date
I have found that in some answers the following proforma is given for partial method of goodwil
consideration paid
– minus parent share of subs net assets at acquision date
The answer will be the same but I am worring about the the proforma which I used
consideration paid
+ NCI share of net assets at acqusition date (NCI % multiplied by net assets at acqusition date)
– all net assets of subs at acquision date
Please, tell me what do you think?No bro you made a mistake.
actual proforma is:
FV of consideration at date of acquisition
+ FV of NCI
– FV of net assets at acquisition date
total goodwillJune 15, 2013 at 7:30 pm #132418<cite> @mohsinahmed said:</cite>
No bro you made a mistake.
actual proforma is:
FV of consideration at date of acquisition
+ FV of NCI
– FV of net assets at acquisition date
total goodwillyes, it is proforma for goodwill measured at FV
But I am talking about partial goodwill method (which was used in part A of question 1)That is why i am asking –
Will I be given full marks for calculation under Partial method of goodwil if I used the following proforma β
consideration paid
+ plus NCI share of net assets at acqusition date
– minus all net assets of subs at acquision date
I have found that in some answers the following proforma is given for partial method of goodwilconsideration paid
– minus parent share of subs net assets at acquision date
The answer will be the same but I am worring about the the proforma which I used for partial goowill metodTHANK YOU!!!
June 15, 2013 at 11:17 pm #132423AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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i time badly. spend too much time on Q1, on calculating goodwill, park goodwill was easy 80, celler’s goodwill was difficult,at the end i just put any number in and move on. I wish I have done that earlier. because I end up do not have enough time to finish Q3, which I could have answer and gain some points.. If I fail by few marks I will be so angry with myself.
June 16, 2013 at 4:13 am #132426<cite> @fg2011 said:</cite>
yes, it is proforma for goodwill measured at FV
But I am talking about partial goodwill method (which was used in part A of question 1)That is why i am asking –
Will I be given full marks for calculation under Partial method of goodwil if I used the following proforma β
consideration paid
+ plus NCI share of net assets at acqusition date
– minus all net assets of subs at acquision date
I have found that in some answers the following proforma is given for partial method of goodwilconsideration paid
– minus parent share of subs net assets at acquision date
The answer will be the same but I am worring about the the proforma which I used for partial goowill metodTHANK YOU!!!
dear bro you have mixed the 2 methods of goodwill.
the method of full goodwill which i have learned form lsbf lectures is following:Goodwill (controling interest):-
FV of consideration
Less: FV of net assets ( CI% * FV of net assets)
SubtotalGoodwill ( Non controling interest):-
FV of NCI
Less: FV of net assets ( NCI% * FV of net assets)
SubtotalFull goodwill ( Goodwill CI + Goodwill NCI)
June 16, 2013 at 5:34 am #132428AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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<cite> @saiyan2005 said:</cite>
think we have the same ans but not for impairment thoughi think it’s ok .. i did the same as well . because that’s what the method used in kaplan.
June 16, 2013 at 5:40 am #132429AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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<cite> @fg2011 said:</cite>
Dear friends could you help me?Will I be given full marks for calculation under partial method of goodwil if I used the following proforma –
consideration paid
+ plus NCI share of net assets at acqusition date
– minus all net assets of subs at acquision dateI have found that in some answers the following proforma is given for partial method of goodwil
consideration paid
– minus parent share of subs net assets at acquision dateThe answer will be the same but I am worring about the the proforma which I used
consideration paid
+ NCI share of net assets at acqusition date (NCI % multiplied by net assets at acqusition date)
– all net assets of subs at acquision datePlease, tell me what do you think?
it’s not wrong. that’s what i did too. because this is the method used in kaplan text books.
June 16, 2013 at 5:45 am #132430<cite>@sujawahab said:</cite>
it’s not wrong. that’s what i did too. because this is the method used in kaplan text books.the partial goodwill method is;-
FV of consideration
Add: FV of NCI( FV of Net Assets * NCI%)
Less: FV of Net Assets
Partial Goodwillyou can reconfirm it from any book.
June 16, 2013 at 6:02 am #132433the method of full goodwill which i have learned form lsbf lectures is following:
Goodwill (controling interest):-
FV of consideration
Less: FV of net assets ( CI% * FV of net assets)
Subtotal
Goodwill ( Non controling interest):-
FV of NCI
Less: FV of net assets ( NCI% * FV of net assets)
Subtotal
Full goodwill ( Goodwill CI + Goodwill NCI)June 16, 2013 at 11:40 am #132462It was more towards ok side…… Thanks to the tutor..
June 16, 2013 at 6:52 pm #132518AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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hi i forgot to write the paper version will my paper be mark or will it go against me? Thanks
June 17, 2013 at 3:53 am #132541<cite>@stephencommey said:</cite>
hi i forgot to write the paper version will my paper be mark or will it go against me? Thanksbro you need to phone the acca. and ask this issue. or write an email to acca.
June 17, 2013 at 6:55 am #132546AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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<cite> @mohsinahmed said:</cite>
the partial goodwill method is;-FV of consideration
Add: FV of NCI( FV of Net Assets * NCI%)
Less: FV of Net Assets
Partial Goodwillyou can reconfirm it from any book.
proportional based goodwill (partial goodwill)
consideration paid
ADD:FV of NET ASSET owned by NCI(FV of Net asset at acquisition X NIC %)
LESS: FV of net assets of subsidiary at Acqusition
partial good willthis is equal to what he wrote above that is
consideration paid
+ plus NCI share of net assets at acqusition date
– minus all net assets of subs at acquision date
—————————————————————————————————————–
full Goodwill
Consideration paid
ADD: FV of NCI (given in the question)
less:FV of net assets of subsidiary at Acqusition
full goodwill
parent : goodwill X Parent %
NCI: goodwill X NCI %
————————————————————————————————————————-and your method also same as to what i wrote above. just the steps are different. i did just as you did in F7 when i went to classes. but p2 i self studied from kaplan book. and i addopted the above kaplan method for p2 .. but i know both methods are same but just different way of doing it
June 18, 2013 at 5:52 pm #132861i left q1c unanswered bc of time ,and i missed out some 3 IAS’s ,like instead of IAS 40 ,i wrote IAS 38,BUT WAS TALKING ON INVESTMENT PROPERTY,ALSO LEASES AND ONE OTHER,I PRAY THEY UNDERSTAND.
June 22, 2013 at 6:15 pm #133088AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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the only thing we need to do is to pray and keep fingers cross
June 23, 2013 at 6:09 am #133097Admin
Is there possibility that opentuition will show suggested answers for P2?)
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