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- June 11, 2013 at 7:32 pm #131708AnonymousInactive
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<cite> @nevyana said:</cite>
For the restructuring I provided plan 1 only and with 14,000 because I excluded the training costs which are not directly related to the restructuring.Me too
June 11, 2013 at 8:06 pm #131721AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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<cite> @katyancha87 said:</cite>
Q3. part (c) of the question on IFRS 5 – Held for sale, isn’t it? not IAS 37Yes, it is. sorry I did not remember exactly
June 11, 2013 at 8:09 pm #131723AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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<cite>@1686844 said:</cite>
Me tooI assumed the same, with a 14,000 provision but now I can’t remember if I added the figure to the SOFP, I guess I will never know now! Do you get marks for the correct workings even if you forget to transfer to the SOFP?
I discounted the loan and interest receivable using the 6% interest rate, then calculated interest at 6% less 3% paid but I’m still unsure what should have been done (as I ended up reducing the loan receivable).
June 11, 2013 at 8:21 pm #131724AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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A tough but fair exam.
June 11, 2013 at 10:07 pm #131741Hello! friends, pls, help me!
1) Q1
-redundacy costs – I included in provision for plan 1 all expenses except for retraining; for year 2 I disounted the provision for 2 years (5% ategiven) and recorded as lontermprovision – is it OK? Will I begiven full marks for this part?2) Q3
Leasing of land
I classified land as operating lease
-indefinite life of land
-the owner has the right to adjust the amount of the rentals (5% to current value)
– no control is pased ;risks and rewards and so on
i listed 5 complete ideas and now I think that it was finance lease – will I be given marks if I classified land as operating lease in this question?
Could you please help me/
Thank you!!!June 11, 2013 at 10:30 pm #131742I started off with Qs4 (which was a gift), then Qs2 (which was okay I suppose), then the essay/ethics on Qs 1b/c (also easy), leaving myself the full hour to do the SOPF last, which was horrendous. I think my exam technique was spot on, but not sure if got enough marks for 50…very borderline!!
June 11, 2013 at 10:38 pm #131744AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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Bin the clutter was a gift. Not a technically demanding paper but very long acca becoming a racing game, the one who writes fastest wins
June 11, 2013 at 10:45 pm #131745AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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June 12, 2013 at 3:55 am #131753AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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too long …. i have left a point worth 10 marks … i wish pass
June 12, 2013 at 4:44 am #131760AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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Questions were not bad..but I messed up with no1 specially in the section of Caller…although it was straightforward but screwed up and ended the respective answer very badly..write some about 2 and 3 and hope it is in line with relevant IAS/IFRS..can I hope for a lucky 50?
June 12, 2013 at 4:51 am #131761AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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<cite>@d38ono said:</cite>
I assumed the same, with a 14,000 provision but now I can’t remember if I added the figure to the SOFP, I guess I will never know now! Do you get marks for the correct workings even if you forget to transfer to the SOFP?I think that you have to get points!
I discounted the loan and interest receivable using the 6% interest rate, then calculated interest at 6% less 3% paid but I’m still unsure what should have been done (as I ended up reducing the loan receivable).
I did the same but I accounted for the loss.
50 m minus PV with 6% = difference which I accounted as a loss in the current year.
Then I calculated the new interest income (it was 1.8 I think) and I accounted for the difference between the interest already accrued (1.5) and 1.8.
I am not sure whether this is correct??June 12, 2013 at 5:02 am #131764AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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<cite> @fg2011 said:</cite>
2) Q3
Leasing of land
I classified land as operating lease
-indefinite life of land
-the owner has the right to adjust the amount of the rentals (5% to current value)
– no control is pased ;risks and rewards and so on
i listed 5 complete ideas and now I think that it was finance lease – will I be given marks if I classified land as operating lease in this question?
Could you please help me/
Thank you!!!This lease was the most difficult part in the exam I think.
I wrote that it is a finance one. I mentioned the new change in IAS 17 whether there will not be anymore operating lease.
That the rights to use the asset correspond to the definition of an asset in the Conceptual Framework. That the risk and rewards are transferred. Bla bla bla. But I am not sure at all and probably I am wrong.
About these adjustments to the rent, I wrote that they should be accounted in the year they occur.
Somebody wrote above that there is an article and according the article it should be an operating lease.June 12, 2013 at 5:07 am #131765AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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Did someone succeed to balance the SPF in Q1?
June 12, 2013 at 5:49 am #131767AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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Q1:
From the question: The FV of NA of Caller was 990 at 1 June 2011 (When 14% and 70% acquired). But share capital was 800, Retained earnings was 190 and OCE was 52. Total is 800+190+52=1,042. And FV of NA was less than per Calculation (990-1,042). So I decreased the share capital from 800 to 708 as balancing fugure:
Share capital: 708
RE: 190
OCE: 52
FV of land: 40
TOTAL: 990What did you do?
June 12, 2013 at 7:12 am #131773<cite>@azenaghiyev said:</cite>
Q1:From the question: The FV of NA of Caller was 990 at 1 June 2011 (When 14% and 70% acquired). But share capital was 800, Retained earnings was 190 and OCE was 52. Total is 800+190+52=1,042. And FV of NA was less than per Calculation (990-1,042). So I decreased the share capital from 800 to 708 as balancing fugure:
Share capital: 708
RE: 190
OCE: 52
FV of land: 40
TOTAL: 990What did you do?</blockquote
I saw that also, but the diff was exactly 52, the amount of other components in equity. I just used 990 as per question. It is not likely that acca have mistaken this but i put down my assumption that i will use 990.June 12, 2013 at 7:20 am #131774AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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How foolish I was!!
I use 1 Jun 2011 for calculate G/w for Caller….
Loss NCI and G/w? how much marks for these?
so sad
I would have been more hard working…….regret muchJune 12, 2013 at 7:28 am #131776And what about q1 redundacy costs – I included in provision for plan 1 all expenses except for retraining; for year 2 I discounted the provision for 2 years (5% rate was given) and recorded as long term provision – is it OK? Will I begiven full marks for this part?
And q3 once again Leasing of land
I classified land as operating lease but now I think that it was finance lease….
Even if I classifiedthe lease in a wrong way but wrote 10 sentences (about 5-7 ideas) will I be given 4-5 marks, even if my decision to classify lease as an operating lease was wrong?What do you think? Will the markers mark my answer which states that it is operating lease ?
June 12, 2013 at 8:42 am #131785It was OK, question 2&3 were just the best.
June 12, 2013 at 8:50 am #131787AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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Hello to everyone and wishes for good luck!!
Can someone tell me the goodwill for Caller and how many marks i possibly lost for not adjusting the non dep lands in SFP although I have calculated (correctly I think) in m workings?
Thanks a lot
June 12, 2013 at 12:42 pm #131810I did the same way as u did and got the same figures.
June 12, 2013 at 1:44 pm #131818<cite> @nevyana said:</cite>
What about the impairment? I first impaired the goodwill and the residual distributed to PPE?Yes that was what the Q asked us to do. 80m against GW and balance to PPE. Think my total Impairment was 277
Cr GW 80
Cr PPE 197
Dr Cons Ret Ear 166.2 (60%*277)
Dr NCI 110.8 (40%*277)June 12, 2013 at 1:59 pm #131819AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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<cite> @xexxion said:</cite>
are we use the NA value of 2012 to cal the goodwill, nci right?
the increase in fv of 310 to 280 is cr to cpl??Yes FV of NCI in Clark ( 14%) shd be taken the value at the time of obtaining control which was in 2012
June 12, 2013 at 2:02 pm #131820AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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<cite>@onlysarwar said:</cite>
Yes FV of NCI in Clark ( 14%) shd be taken the value at the time of obtaining control which was in 2012Same figures 🙂 and yes the final effect to CSOFP would be the same as you told but depends on the methods of working to arrive at those figures
June 12, 2013 at 2:09 pm #131825AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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<cite> @kevgooner said:</cite>
Yes that was what the Q asked us to do. 80m against GW and balance to PPE. Think my total Impairment was 277Cr GW 80
Cr PPE 197
Dr Cons Ret Ear 166.2 (60%*277)
Dr NCI 110.8 (40%*277)Same figures and yes the final effect to CSOFP would be the same as you told but depends on the methods of working to arrive at those figures
June 12, 2013 at 2:14 pm #131826AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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<cite>@linh2689 said:</cite>
How foolish I was!!
I use 1 Jun 2011 for calculate G/w for Caller….
Loss NCI and G/w? how much marks for these?
so sad
I would have been more hard working…….regret muchDont worry dear, this happened with me too because the the order in which information was presented persuaded to do this error..BUT STILL you can pass its going to cost max 4 marks i belive..if rest of your calculation were properly done and remaining portion of exam ws ok…hope for the best…. examiner basically tested the idea of “control” at least you NOW you wont forget tht… 🙂
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