- July 3, 2015 at 8:52 pm
Dear trephena could you please verify the following information for me.I heard the other day that if some one fails in OBU in first attempt and than passes OBU than he or she will achieve third class in BSC HONOURS however good their report on second time is.but is not it suppose to be that if our average mark between 60to65 and if we pass OBU within 3 attempts we get upper second class.Thanks in advance.July 4, 2015 at 3:08 am
To be more precise if somones average mark is 62 and he /she fails in first RAP report and than passes the OBU RAP.what he /she will get.July 4, 2015 at 10:55 am
@dewan – a response first to the ‘rumour’ that unless you pass the RAP at the first attempt you will only get a 3rd class honours degree. No this is not true -possibly where this info has come from is that if you fail a normal UK universit#y degree course, yes the university will often only subsequently award a 3rd class degree and no higher. However this does not apply to the OBU BSc degree.
However the actual grade for the RAP is capped for resubmissions to a C unless the report itself was passed in its entirety at the first attempt. What this means is that if your mark sheet shows passes for sections 1 to 7 but a fail in any part of the SLS then whatever grade you got on the report section will be carried forward and will be awarded once the SLS is passed. If you failed any part of the Report (sections 1 to 7) but passed the SLS then you have to successfully pass the Report to get the degree but can only ever get a C grade pass.
Now to your later question. If you failed the report as opposed to just the SLS then you can only now get a C grade for your RAP. Look at the table in the Information Pack and it will show you the class of honours for a C grade pass + average mark of 62 (I don’t have the Info Pack to hand right now but my guess would be at least a 2.1 – which is sometimes referred to as an Upper Second – quite a decent grade 😀 )July 4, 2015 at 12:45 pm
Trephena you are a star.Thanks alot u saved me.it was killing me from inside as i really wanted bsc degree but not third class.THANK YOU again and i would definitely ask you in future regarding any OBU queries.cheers.July 16, 2015 at 1:50 am
The questions in the subject. To be specific could I apply for the Big 4 with a 2.1 or above in this degree for their graduate programmes?July 17, 2015 at 12:37 pm
@harry – normally as you probably know a minimum of a 2.1 Honours degree is demanded by the Big 4. If you also have your ACCA qualification as well as the OBU 2.1 degree (or above) then I would expect them to be sufficiently interested in you to interview you. However each firm sets out its own ‘essentials and undesirables’ when recruiting suitable candidates based on supply, demand and specific needs so this can only be a general guide. Good luck!July 20, 2015 at 12:41 pm
Its quite interesting as I just landed on this qn while scrolling through the forum. anyway, its absolutely possible, well atleast in my country. lol
I am a period 29 graduate and am waiting for june results to hopefully become an affiliate. luckily, around the time of the obu results release in march this year, the big 4 recruitments started n just as inquisitive as u are right now, I decided to apply to 3 of the 4. deloitte turned me down (no idea why), ey called me for the aptitudes and I hv been fortunate enaf to reach pwc’s partner interviews (fingers crossed for that final call).
so its deftly possible. p.s I had a 2.1
long story I know but I thk it answers your qn. I would encourage you to apply and try yo luck tooJuly 23, 2015 at 3:12 pm
Mandita, what country do you live in?July 24, 2015 at 1:53 pm
I live in Uganda,n thats in Eastern Africa. N a little update is that i actually got the pwc job offer like 2 days ago…very excited!
So ya its deftly possibleAugust 9, 2015 at 8:41 pm
@tommy -as you have worked out a score of at least 63 for F9 would be required to give you a 2.1 if your RAP gets a C. You haven’t mentioned whether you have already submitted but if you haven’t then it is still possible for you to achieve a 2.1 with a score of 57 IF you managed to get a grade B. A grade A would mean an even lower mark for F9. To work out what you need take the average mark in the table on p.17 of the latest Info Pack against the relevant RAP grade, multiply it by 6. This will give you the total marks required, take away your total to date and the remainder is your target Mark.August 10, 2015 at 4:35 pm
@tommy -Look at the grid table for a B grade RAP – you have to have an average of 59 for a 2.1 (I think I worked out that your current average is slightly higher than this and you have total marks currently of 297 – please check this is the case) An average of 59 means total marks of 354. So to achieve this target would mean that you would need 57 marks PROVIDED you got at least a B grade for your RAP. And yes an A Grade would mean a lower score as the average mark falls to 58 so you would need a total of 348 marks overall (58*6) so only 51 for your remaining paper. Although I have to add only about 5% of RAPS realistically get an A grade but a B is achievable if you have the right approach and reference well. This is where having an experienced mentor might be to your advantage.
Good luck!August 11, 2015 at 10:42 pm
I need to complete my optional papers (P6 and P7) along with OBU thesis.
Do you think whether it is possible for an average student to pass in all of that?
Please help me.
@ trephena what do you think?August 11, 2015 at 11:48 pm
@darkangle5 – it’s pretty hard for me to comment objectively as I have no idea of your abilities, what support you have or what your other commitments are outside of studying. However I know from my own experience if you start right now and are really committed and set your mind to it, it probably is achievable. What I have found is that it is essentiall to draw up a study timetable and stick to it. Alternate between time for P6, P7 and the RAP. Strange as it may sound that is a very effective and efficient way of studying – it’s like the brain tires of one subject and a very brief break followed by a different subject or task means you can get more in and learn better – or at least that has worked for me. Good luck! 🙂August 17, 2015 at 4:56 pm
Thank you … that was helpful 🙂August 29, 2015 at 7:08 am
What level does this degree represent in the UK qualification structure, level 5 or 6?
Is this degree capable of being used go gain higher academic qualifications?August 29, 2015 at 11:24 pm
@Raveen – at least level 6. Yes provided you get a 2.1 you can use it to gain entry on a Masters course but if you have your ACCA qualification you may find that this + a 2.2 degree together will be sufficient for a higher courseAugust 29, 2015 at 11:51 pm
An average of 59.66667 is under which honours classification ?August 30, 2015 at 12:15 am
@airguys – read the posts to and from Tommy as it depends on what grade you will get for your RAP. You should look at the table in the Info Pack as it sets out the possible honours classification according to the combination of the average mark and grade.
By the way don’t work to 5 d.p. in your RAP it will drive your marker insane!August 30, 2015 at 1:53 am
Hi trephine, to be specified, my question is do they actually round up or down. It could either be a 59 or 60. For a 2.1 classification, a pass grade in the RAP would suffice. However, either A or B grade will be needed to achieve the same classification if your average is 59 marks.August 30, 2015 at 5:32 am
Any ideas on the new masters by acca and uol. Do you think its worth the 4k+? Or are we better of doing a cheaper mba ?August 30, 2015 at 8:12 am
@airguys – got it! All those decimal places now make sense! 🙂 I think you will find they will round it up to 60, which is good news for you.August 30, 2015 at 9:12 am
@Raveen – I have no exact experience of this and the actual teaching methods involved but for anyone else who is considering pursuing their studies further I offer the following comments and advice.
I would expect it to follow the ‘usual’ online teaching model. That is it will be modular (perhaps with some choice of options), and modules are delivered online. Normally you are given assignment essays to write, the marks for which cumulatively go towards your Masters degree classification (pass, merit, distinction) and have to produce a quality dissertation at the end. There may be some level of online tutorials or Skype sessions organised by tutors. The university arranges that during your course you have online access to a virtual library that includes thousands of journals and electronic books so that you can research.
Like any course you have to be disciplined. My own experience of doing a Masters via this method was that 2 assignments each year were due in January – which for most accountants is the busiest time of the year so not ideal 🙁 understatement! This was then coupled with the fact that there were no modules available from July to Sept – so effectively the online course lacked flexibility and was organised around normal university teaching years! I found this (particularly the January assignments ) very frustrating and felt the course had been designed for the convenience of the staff rather than the students!
Maybe the world has moved on now and the courses offered are more flexible however you should check on this and also availability of all the modules as one module I particularly wanted to do was only available to on campus students (conveniently I was only informed of this after enrollment 🙁 )
With all these things do your homework – you usually get what you pay for and cheaper sometimes (but not always) means they cut back elsewhere (less online access to fewer journals, modules not updated regularly, high student to tutor ratio etc). Research what courses are available too as you may find something that is more specific to your own career path plans.
GBP 4k sounds fairly reasonable as I paid about that to do an MSc about 5 years ago (with the above frustrations thrown in) and possibly as ACCA is behind this particular course they may not pull the 2 assignments in January ‘trick’…..August 30, 2015 at 9:25 am
Thanks for the reply. I must say , its the best peice of advice that I got so far. Yep I must do some more research on the masters and the point about modules in january is good food for thought. Thanks again.??September 11, 2015 at 3:37 am
Maybe you made a typo because the average grade I get with the grades you posted is 60.2. In any case, the OBU information pack at http://business.brookes.ac.uk/undergraduate/2016/acca/files/information-pack.pdf says “marks are rounded up from 0.5” (section 5.d), so 59.6 would be 60.September 17, 2015 at 12:38 pm
I wonder, what happens after resignation from ACCA Student Register? Does your gained certificates/diplomas (ethics certificate, diploma in accounting and business) or OBu degree become void? Or they remain in effect and you can use them?
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