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Ot course notes page 43 example 9 (Robertas and Ingrida's que)

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  • January 31, 2013 at 8:03 pm #114521
    sab
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    Hi sir
    Within the OT course notes
    Chapter 7 Example-9( Robertas and Ingriida) I’ve a doubt.
    In the solution provided by OT (page 156), in the group retained earnings computation (w3).. the negative goodwill arised has been added with the post acquisition retained earnings . why is it taken so?( i mean why negative goodwill is added with it?)

    January 31, 2013 at 8:32 pm #114522
    sab
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    hi
    And ter is one more question how will we take into account when ter is a positive goodwill comes with midyear acquisition problems?

    February 2, 2013 at 8:40 pm #114566
    MikeLittle
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    Hi Sabrin

    Negative goodwill is added to group retained earnings at the earliest opportunity ( this is clearly stated in the course notes! ). The rationale is that we have paid less for our investment than our share of the fair valued net assets acquired. It’s a bargain purchase – we’ve acquired fair valued assets worth ( say ) $50,000 but only paid ( say ) $40,000 for those assets

    In simple double entry terms, Debit various assets acquired at fair value ( say ) $50,000, Credit purchase consideration ( say cash ) $40,000 but where’s the other $10,000 credit? It’s going to create a negative balance in the Goodwill Account and will go from there to Retained Earnings at the end of the first year

    What’s the problem with positive goodwill where it’s a mid-year acquisition? Working 2 – Goodwill – is calculated in the normal way.

    No problem

    November 11, 2014 at 1:31 pm #209094
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    And what about share premium of subsidiary, why its not included on consolidation in Robertas example?

    Thanks

    November 11, 2014 at 4:00 pm #209150
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    Because the share premium arises upon the issuing of shares. When did Ingrida issue shares? On incorporation, and that was BEFORE acquisition date.

    Does the share premium not feature as part of the FV of SNA @DOA?

    It will NEVER be the case at F7 and unlikely at P2 that a subsidiary will issue shares post-acquisition

    Ok?

    November 12, 2014 at 10:12 am #209280
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    thank you, it makes sense, you told us to treat all reserves like retaiend earnings, so premium is preaquisition, so we exclude it from consolidated SOFP

    November 12, 2014 at 11:04 am #209291
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    Correct.

    In the highly improbable situation where there IS a post acquisition movement in the share premium account, only the post acquisition element would be included …… but it won’t happen!

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