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operating lease

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  • January 25, 2017 at 1:04 pm #369465
    firelion28
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    hi mike, in the bpp book it says

    a property interest that is held by the lessee under an operating lease may be classified and accounted for as an investment property , if and only if the the property meets the definition of an investment property!

    Mike, if I am the lessee of a property that is being leased to me under an operating, wont be as the investment property of a LESSOR rather than me?

    January 25, 2017 at 1:42 pm #369490
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    Q2. Also, why is that in the IAS 40, there is so much focus for the entity to show the asset at fair value, evene when there is a change in the use, etc? Even if we use to the cost model, we have to show the fair value?

    January 25, 2017 at 2:30 pm #369516
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    ‘a property interest that is held by the lessee under an operating lease may be classified and accounted for as an investment property , if and only if the the property meets the definition of an investment property!’

    This is an example of awkward sentence construction. I’ll see if I can correct it to maybe make it clearer

    “a property interest that is held by A lessee under an operating lease may be classified and accounted for as an investment property BY THE LESSOR, if and only if the property meets the definition of an investment property”

    Why emphasis on fair value? I’m guessing (because I don’t know definitively the answer!) it’s because where a company owns an asset that is classed as an investment property, held for capital appreciation or income stream generation, wouldn’t you as a shareholder want to know how well this investment property is performing?

    Your directors have spent trillions of dollars some years ago acquiring a property for its capital appreciation potential and the directors have opted to apply the cost model

    Surely you would want to know by how much the fair value exceeds depreciated cost

    OK?

    January 25, 2017 at 3:40 pm #369536
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    Sorry mike, this is what it says-

    a property interest that is held by the lessee under an operating lease may be classified and accounted for as an investment property , if and only if the the property meets the definition of an investment property and the LESSEE uses the fair value model. Bpp Pg 47

    How is that possible

    January 25, 2017 at 3:43 pm #369539
    firelion28
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    I found this on Accountingstandards,com-

    Property held under an operating lease. A property interest that is held by a lessee under an operating lease may be classified and accounted for as investment property provided that: [IAS 40.6]

    the rest of the definition of investment property is met
    the operating lease is accounted for as if it were a finance lease in accordance with IAS 17 Leases
    the lessee uses the fair value model set out in this Standard for the asset recognised

    January 25, 2017 at 3:45 pm #369541
    firelion28
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    So in the books of lessee- He would account for it as an investment property righ?

    January 25, 2017 at 4:47 pm #369556
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    This is the relevant section of the B1 section of the syllabus relating to Property, Plant and Equipment:

    “f) Discuss why the treatment of investment properties should differ from other properties.[2]
    g) Apply the requirements of relevant accounting standards to an investment property.[2]”

    and this is the B6 section of the syllabus relating to Leases:

    “6. Leasing

    a) Explain why recording the legal form of a finance lease can be misleading to users (referring to the commercial substance of such leases).[2]

    b) Describe and apply the method of determining a lease type (i.e. an operating or finance lease).[2]

    c) Discuss the effect on the financial statements of a finance lease being incorrectly treated as an operating lease.[2]

    d) Account for assets financed by finance leases in the records of the lessee.[2]

    e) Account for operating leases in the records of the lessee.[2]

    f) Account for sale and leaseback agreements.”

    With the possible exception of point e) from B6, there is no indication from within your syllabus that property held under an operating lease classified as investment property is ever likely to come up as an exam question

    However … where property IS held under an operating lease, it seems that the lessee is potentially able to classify that property on the condition that the terms of the lease agreement are such that the asset satisfies the criteria for being treated as a finance leased asset

    G*d bless BPP for indulging in the fantasy that that point could be important for F7 students!

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