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- March 25, 2015 at 4:37 am #238652
hi,
could you tell me what it means?Overall Technical and Professional Skills Fail
“Reasons for fail and advice for improvement:
Whilst not failing you on your presentation, which is acceptable, you may wish to consider the placement of your graphs (and combining when making comparisons with google) as it is not particularly easy for the reader currently. You might also like to break up your swot analysis into more manageable chunks which again will help the reader comprehend more effectively what you are trying to say.”also..i thought refrencing a webpage (in,ine text was acceptable…that was my understanding through info pack)..
Your referencing needs some attention especially in the ratio analysis section. Website addresses are not suitable references e.g. “(https://appleinsider.com/articles/14/08/04/apples-iphone-driving-force-behind-na-mobile-web-traffic-samsung-share-on-the-rise, 2014).” In addition there are claims but not referenced e.g. “winning nine straight J.D Power Awards for its iPhone”
March 25, 2015 at 4:41 am #238653Hi Hassanhere,
Strictly speaking, according to the Harvard Referencing system, websites are referenced rather differently from what you’re doing. We have a video on our website that illustrates how you can take advantage of the in built referencing system on Microsoft Word to avoid issues with referencing. I agree that the infopack appears confusing over this, and should certainly be updated.
As for the top comment, we might need to look at your graphs to understand what the marker meant. As for SWOT, we usually advise students to separate each section into manageable subheadings like “Strong Brand Name” or “Poor Internal Controls” to ensure the message is made clearer.
March 25, 2015 at 4:50 am #238655thanks a ton..i was gutted..i guess ill hafta give it all once more..thankx for ur support 🙂
March 25, 2015 at 5:53 am #238663Hi, I’m wondering whether the markers feedback is only given when you are unsuccessful or is it given regardless of what your outcome was?
March 25, 2015 at 8:13 am #238698Hi Sameed,
It’s given only in the event of failure, to explain the reasons for your failure. As such, it is sometimes referred to as a ‘fail sheet’.
Regards,
The Learning LuminariumMarch 25, 2015 at 8:23 am #238701hi i wanted help because i failed my Rap second time and i am literally in tears. my topic is 8 and i failed in two points , Evaluation of information, analysis and conclusions and Information gathering and Referencing ,following is my feedback
( Evaluation of information, analysis and conclusions)
You have addressed some of the points made by the last marker and moderator, however your analysis is still not in line with the required standard to pass. Your SWOT is unbalanced. There is no rule that says that all four elements of a SWOT must be of equal length, however there should be some symmetry or balance between the sections. You had no Weaknesses, one opportunity and two threats – ideally you should try to have say between 3 – 5 of each of the four elements of a SWOT, though this is just a guide, and not a rule, you can have more than 5. If readers see an unbalanced SWOT they will be believe that either you have not researched your topic, or that you are biased, and have chosen to overlook the elements that are omitted or shorter. Your ratio analysis also needs a lot of work to reach the required standard, currently it is very descriptive and contains very little analysis. By descriptive I mean that you often describe the changes in ratios of say which company has the better ratio but do not analyse the reasons for changing ratios or variances between both companies.
Continuing my comments from above, for the GPM on page 25 you said \”The above table and graph show the gross profit margin ratio of FCCL which has an increasing trend showing that the ability of FCCL to make profits is continuously increasing. After the production expansion in 2011 and 2012 the increased output of the manufacturing unit has substantially increased the profitability of FCCL.\” This is inadequate to explain the changes in ratios over three years – what are the reasons for the changing ratios? More details are required. For most of your ratios you described the changes but seldom analysed the underlying reasons. For operating margin you said \”The above graph and table clearly shows that Operating Profit Margin has an upward trend and FCCL is making adequate profits on sales. Therefore the management of FCCL is generating adequate profits from the operations of FCCL.\” We can see from the graph the trend, so you do not need to repeat this, you need to analyse WHY the ratios are changing. For the comparator analysis on page 32 you said \”The Gross Profit ratio provides that KOHC is the leader when profit on sales is concerned.\” To say which company is the \”leader\” or has the higher margin is not analysis, it is just description, you need to provide analysis – why is one company performing more effectively than the other? You are advised to reverse the order of your business and financial analysis as this will allow you to link the two together more effectively. In addition you need to concentrate on the two key indicators of revenue and profitability, if you analyse these effectively the reasons for changes in the other ratios will become more evident.
( Information gathering and Referencing)
Your referencing is still inadequate, though you reference the theoretical aspects – like the explanations of certain ratios, for example this “The profitability analysis also shows how effectively the managers are employing the corporate strategy of the firm (Wahlen, Baginski, and Bradshaw, 2011).”, however you do not provide sufficient references for the information you have used in the analysis section of your Research Report, you need to reference the source of the information you have used in your analysis, you also need to provide references for information presented in tables and graphs. Though you have gathered a significant amount of information in presenting this report, you need to obtain more information to enable you to provide more useful analysis.
plzzz help me on this ,there were no moderator comments
March 25, 2015 at 8:37 am #238709Dear trephena,
Thanks loads for the support and luck.
I had choosen topic 6, and i had choosen a school as my organisation. this time i am doing topic 6 again, and my organisation is a school again but a different school, i mean another school.
so it will be as if i am submitting a new RAP, isnt it, even though the RAP will be on school again? and my grade will be a new one, not a C?
and should i submit the resubmission form, and answer about the markers comments?March 25, 2015 at 8:46 am #238711Hi Saad,
The moderator usually doesn’t comment. To help you:
1) A SWOT analysis must usually be somewhat balanced as the marker highlighted. Bear in mind that Strengths and Weaknesses are a critique of the company’s internal workings, while Opportunities and Threats are a critique of the external environment the company operates in. For each heading, I usually recommend students to list and explain a few factors. For example:
Strengths:
Strong Brand Name
Company XYZ has been vastly successful in crafting a strong presence on the global market. Forbes (2013) valued the brand at….Streamlined Business Operations
Integral to Company XYZ’s operations is the removal of the ‘middle man’ (ACC, 2014). This substantially lowers the costs of operations which lends it a competitive edge compared to….2) What the marker is looking for here is an in-depth explanation of the changes in the ratios, and the reasons for differences from its benchmark. Much of your current work describes the trend. A description is something that goes like this: “The current ratio has fallen over the last three years. This shows that Company XYZ is now less capable of repaying short-term liabilities.” This is a problem, as this comment can be very easily extracted from textbooks, and merely explains the implications of the ratios, rather than the CAUSE for their change.
You’re required to go beyond that. That is what the marker meant by analysis. So something like this should work: “It is clear that Company XYZ’s current ratios have fallen, and pales in comparison to Company DEF. This is due to its increasing level of short term payables, which increased by 58% over the last three years. This is a result of a change in corporate strategy to take advantage of interest-free credit lines provided by suppliers as the cost of debt has increased for Company XYZ (News Network, 2014). In contrast, Company DEF has constantly maintained a healthy current ratio above 1. As Smith (2011), the CEO explains, this is a result of a consistent effort to generate goodwill with its suppliers…”
3) You’re required to show the sources for the reasons you have highlighted. This is particularly important for part 3. For example, if I say that Company ABC’s profit margins have fallen due to increasing costs of raw materials, I need a reference to support the reason I’m offering here.What you’re facing is a common mistake many students attempting topic 8 commit. Hopefully this comment can help you!
Regards,
The Learning LuminariumMarch 25, 2015 at 3:55 pm #238783AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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3. Evaluation of information, analysis and conclusions
Your analysis is mainly descriptive and does not explain the performance. Because it is lacking in references, this may be because you have carried out insufficient research. Referencing enables us to identify the source material and your analysis of that material6. Information gathering and Referencing
See above. Look at the guidelines and the link to Harvard referencing and also extend your research to the media as well as company reports to get a balance to your researchHaiz, is this all means 1 thing insufficient research?
but the information are limited out there due to competitive issues. what should i do?Sometimes really confused because some matters you actually don’t need reference because u simply know it is reasonable and just use common sense to give your ideas to answer why the trend look so based on the definition and some events which you must reference because they are simply facts and you can’t be able to describe by your own. This is actually what i did in my report and i also included in my report the limitation of the report is access to management information because i could able to explain the whole trend more accurately provided more info provided, isn’t it insufficient?
March 25, 2015 at 4:29 pm #238797AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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I understand what learning luminarium said to other students. It applies to me, so no need any reply for me now.
But last 2 questions for learning luminarium-
1) u said microsoft word 2007 onwards got harvard 2008 style, i using 2010 don’t have so i use chicago style instead for period 29 which i feel is similar, so maybe the feedback above means this issue.2)How to gather information, really difficult…… I am not detective, auditor or police. i am doing Del Monte Inc. . i using mainly report from company, annual report (main source) ,bank analysis which i have already used but it still need more “external” information, i don’t have license to get more privacy from others other than published information.
Said easier than done.
March 26, 2015 at 12:27 am #238883Hello this is the comment that I’ve got.
Reasons for fail and advice for improvement:
Why did you not use powerpoint? How did you show your slides at the presentation? There are rather a lot for a 15 minute presentation because you included in the early slides unnecessary information on why and how you wrote the report. Within the guidelines there is an article that advises that the presentation should be about your results and conclusions rather than the process.I did exactly what my mentor told me to do and she even asked me to put the slides into microsoft word which I had no idea why.I’m so lost!
March 26, 2015 at 5:42 am #238892@js072591:
1) You can follow this guide to add Harvard style back to your MS Word. It appears that it was removed in 2010, and reappeared in the latest MS Office.
https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/office/forum/office_2010-word/how-do-i-add-harvard-referencing-to-my-word-2010/193f8748-91e9-47c3-a034-a52ca67ad9c42) As a rule, companies should only be chosen where there is a huge amount of external information. That is a key factor for consideration. If you are unable to find the necessary information, you MIGHT want to rethink if Del Monte is the best company you want to work with. Usually though, whatever is produced in the Annual Reports is often reproduced on other channels (news networks, Forbes, Bloomberg etc). You could reference these instead of the annual report to explain your ratios.
@Allop:
Presentations must be submitted separate from your Report, and the submission website (if I am not mistaken) allows a separate upload slot for your presentation. A lack of a presentation is a ground for failure. The resubmission guide highlights that.March 26, 2015 at 6:04 am #238897@learningluminarium said:
@Allop:
Presentations must be submitted separate from your Report, and the submission website (if I am not mistaken) allows a separate upload slot for your presentation. A lack of a presentation is a ground for failure. The resubmission guide highlights that.Hi…The presentation is submitted separately under one slot.It’s just that the slides are not in powerpoint.
March 26, 2015 at 6:11 am #238901@Allop:
Therefore for the next submission, keep it in the PPT format. Also, the second concern the marker highlighted is the length of your slides. You’re only required to present your findings (i.e. focus on Part 3 and 4). Do bear in mind that your presentation is only 15 minutes long. The length of your slides should be appropriate for a 15-minute presentation.
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Thank a lot for the advice, I have successfully insert harvard style into my ms word. And i might need to change company, but i don wish to because i have spent a lot of time on it, haiz, slides, chart ,etc… I will try to research more info but those bloomberg as you said, the information is simply limited, seriously, there are chart , and figures mainly, no big events happening.
I truly understand choosing a famous company is important and also why students use their company even more preferably.
I was tempted to sign up to the resubmission package u offered to avoid second failure but i don’t think i can still use this company i think, and also not worth it because next submission is coming soon which is May1-25, any suggestions?
March 26, 2015 at 1:24 pm #238976@learningluminarium my RR was on topic 20. here is the marker’s feedback.
1. understanding of accountancy model……pass
2. application of accountancy/business model….faili used Gray, Owen & Adams seven position on CSR, and also used Johnson &Scholes ethical stance.
REASONS FOR FAIL AND ADVISE FOR IMPROVEMENT:
you hav focused too much on questionnaire (which is not very useful in this topic) and need to consider an analysis of the company’s actions in relation to appropriate models of ethical behaviour and CSR. you wud do well to use mendelow’s matrix and refer to Global Reporting Initiative as a framework to improve ur analysis of company actions and reporting.
3. Evaluation of information, analysis and conclusions……….fail
REASONS FOR FAIL
the views of variety of informant does not tell us the impact of company CSR activities. u shd gather much more information abt the company’s activities in relation to stakeholder groups. given the company sector, what are key ethical and social issues they shd pay attention to? who is affected by these? what are the companies stated policies, and do their actions seem to accord with these?
1. does this mean i shd discard the questionnaire and all the analysis i did on it?
2. should i continue to use Gray, Owen & Adams seven position on CSR, and Johnson &Scholes ethical stance. then add mendelow’s matrix to it? Or shd i use only mendelow’s matrix?
3. how will i use Global Reporting Initiative? is it as a guide to see if the company’s actions are right?
please give all the details here because i have no clue especially on number 3.
pls reply
March 26, 2015 at 2:57 pm #238983Your fail sheet is very meaningful and the marker is trying his best to give you points on how to pass. Here are our suggestions.
1. does this mean i shd discard the questionnaire and all the analysis i did on it?
As I am not exactly sure what questionnaire you did, I shall answer generally. You have two options. (1) Discard it. (2) Keep it but find a way to make it valuable and relevant to the report.
For topic 20, I generally agree with the marker that it is not too useful. I would suggest discarding it.2. should i continue to use Gray, Owen & Adams seven position on CSR, and Johnson &Scholes ethical stance. then add mendelow’s matrix to it? Or shd i use only mendelow’s matrix?
Yes, you have to keep all the models and include Mendelow’s Matrix (MM). The point to emphasize is how a company has a myriad of stakeholders. Afterall, anyone with an interest immediately becomes a stakeholder. However, you cant possibly comment on all of them. MM is a great tool for you to categorize the stakeholders and make a case on which stakeholders you should focus on.
3. how will i use Global Reporting Initiative? is it as a guide to see if the company’s actions are right?
Yes. The Global Reporting Initiative provides high quality standards and best practices that companies should aspire to. It thus serves as a benchmark. By comparing your company against this benchmark, you are evaluating the company’s quality of CSR.
I trust these comments will be helpful to you.
All the best,
The Learning Luminarium TeamMarch 27, 2015 at 12:42 am #239045Could you please help me understand what i should do to pass my RR and SLS!
Technical and Professional Skills
1. Understanding of accountancy/business models Pass2. Application of accountancy/business models Pass
3. Evaluation of information, analysis and conclusions Fail
Reasons for fail and advice for improvement:
Even though you have put good effort in the project, there is still work to be done to achieve the pass standard in the following areas: Your profitability ratios are good enough to pass but other accounting ratios were often just largely descriptive, rather than analytical., by this I mean that you often described the changes without too much analysis to explain the changes. What is expected from the RAP for analysis is an exploration of the business decisions and strategies that have led to the change in ratios over the period under review and how these have been affected by competitors, the market, the economy and government policies. You need to focus on ratios that are specific to banking i.e. CAMELS.4. Presentation of project findings Pass
Overall Technical and Professional Skills Fail
Graduate Skills
5. Communication Pass6. Information gathering and Referencing Fail
Reasons for fail and advice for improvement:
You have made a good start but you are let down somewhat by the tendency to patch together materials from other sources – when resubmitting make sure that you write the project in your own words rather than relying on cutting and pasting text from the internet: whilst I have interpreted this as very poor referencing in the current submission please be mindful that it could be likened to plagiarism which is a serious academic conduct issue. You must also make sure that the most up to date financial statements are used when resubmitting your work. You will need to undertake more information research in order to be in a position to undertake more in-depth analysis of the company. You need to expand your information sources and make sure that you reference these sources.7. Information Technology Pass
Overall Graduate Skills Fail
Overall
Research Report Assessment FSkills & Learning Statement
Graduate Skills8. Self Reflection Fail
Reasons for fail and advice for improvement:
Q3 is particularly weak on self-reflection: consider all the types of communication used- verbal, written, non-verbal and the different media, interpersonal opportunities and any setbacks.9. Communication Skills (inc Presentation) Fail
Reasons for fail and advice for improvement:
I really need to see more information in the presentation that clearly illustrates the key issues that you are going to address in the RAP. The presentation should provide the audience with an understanding of the outcomes and key findings of the investigation, it is not sufficient to merely present the graphs and charts with no commentary. On the slides for the SWOT you have too much information for the audience to digest effectively. You need to find a balance with graphs and bullet points to convey the main points and then you can expand on this verbally when you deliver the presentation.Skills and Learning Statement assessment Fail
Would appreciate your help on this. I’m planning on resubmitting for the May 2015 session.
March 27, 2015 at 1:07 am #239047Dear Exnihil,
We covered what description and analysis of ratios should look like. You could scroll upwards for that. It’s fairly long and could benefit any individual who has comments on their analysis being “descriptive” rather than “analytical”.
As for ratios specific to banks, industries often have ratios that matter and are specific. Instead of using the usual generic ratios that ACCA has taught, you need to spend some times understanding what banking ratios are and how to analyse those.
OBU generally frowns on direct quotations, and you should always attempt to write the ideas in your own words, while citing the appropriate sources you extracted the ideas from. Try to diversify your sources, and not rely solely on the annual reports for your reasons.
The comments on your SLS and PPT appear fairly straight forward. I hope this helps you!
March 28, 2015 at 11:14 pm #239353@LearningLuminarium ur response is very helpful. thanks
April 1, 2015 at 9:03 am #239773Hello there, i need some help with my OBU submission. Here are the details
1. Reasons for fail and advice for improvement:
Your previous marker advised you to look into the reasons why Honda were not performing as well as Indus. you have only added a little in this respect. For example ‘The main reason for the gross loss of Honda Atlas in 2012 was due to a reduction in sales accompanied by increased cost of sales (HACPL Financial statements, 2013).’ As below Analysis requires you to explore the reasons behind the change in the figures.
2. Reasons for fail and advice for improvement:
Even though you have put good effort in the resubmission and implemented marker suggestion, I have to fail you in this area. I agreed that your business analysis areas are good enough to pass. However apart from profitability ratios, your accounting ratios were often just largely descriptive, rather than analytical, by this I mean that you often described the changes without too much analysis to explain the changes. What is expected from the RAP for analysis is an exploration of the business decisions and strategies that have led to the change in ratios over the period under review and how these have been affected by competitors, the market, the economy and government policies.You have painted a broad picture with your business analysis, although your sources here could have been more extensive here, however your financial analysis is too insular and looking at changes in other aspects of the accounts to explain changes in ratios. You need to look outside the annual reports and see how the company is viewed in the wider world.
3. Reasons for fail and advice for improvement:
You have passed SLS but I still think 27 slides is too much for the 15 minutes presentation. You should have summarised key points in business analysis areas slides to make it condense. And there are charts/graphs without including the commentary and I do not think it looked professional. Add bullet points to your graphs which you can expand on verbally when you deliver your presentation. Consider the audience and include information most relevant to them, this may mean that you do not include all of your business models
April 8, 2015 at 1:31 pm #240514The comments from the marker are as follows:
Research Report
Technical and Professional Skills
1. Understanding of accountancy/business models (Fail)
Reasons for fail and advice for improvement:
Your project is of an extremely good standard. It is interesting and very professionally written and presented. Well done. However, there is an absence of referencing within your financial and business analysis. As a result, I am unable to tell where your information has come from, and as such establish whether you have provided an unbiased piece of work using a well balanced range of sources. This is a real shame, but I cannot establish whether your project is heavily dependent on the annual report of the company as you simply have not provided enough company specific references within your report. Without referencing there is no evidence of research which has been conducted, and as such you cannot get credit for that research.2. Application of accountancy/business models (Pass)
3. Evaluation of information, analysis and conclusions (Fail)
Reasons for fail and advice for improvement:
As above, without referencing it is not possible to verify the standard of your research, and therefore evaluation. Please note that if your project is heavily reliant on the annual report of the company, it will fail again on this basis. You need to ensure that you have used other sources external to company produced documentation.4. Presentation of project findings (Pass)
Overall Technical and Professional Skills(Fail)
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Graduate Skills
5. Communication (Pass)
6. Information gathering and Referencing (Fail)
Reasons for fail and advice for improvement:
As above, referencing is an issue. There are a huge number of examples I could give, but I will name a few in order to hopefully set you on the right track. On page 11, you show various sources of revenue. Where have these figures come from? Page 12, you state; “Because the company seized the full-services development opportunities through adopting the 3G smart-phone-led strategy, placing equal emphasis on core single products and integrated products, and accelerating the promotion of emerging businesses and applications.” Where does this information come from? Page 13, you state; “The increase in 2012 was mainly attributable to the corresponding increase in CDMA network capacity lease fee and operating and maintenance expenses along with the business development, while the decrease in 2013 was resulting from the CDMA network acquisition took place in 2012.” Again, what information source have you used here?7. Information Technology (Pass)
Overall Graduate Skills (Fail)
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Overall
Research Report Assessment (F)
Reasons for fail and advice for improvement:
Please do not feel too disheartened. Other than referencing, your project is of a passable standard (assuming you have used a reasonable range of sources for your analysis). Please follow the guidance as above and I am confident that resubmission will be successful.——————————————————————————————————————–
Questions:1. I wonder whether I have to update the financial statements within my paper (I used 2011, 2012, 2013 annual financial reports)? or what I have to do now is only to give more specific referencing?
2. If I have to update the financial statements and 2014 annual financial report has not been released except 2014 interim report, what are the most recent financial statements that can be used in re-submission? (201206, 201306, 201406)???
Thanks a lot for your help!
Will
April 8, 2015 at 7:39 pm #240554@will1982 – The marker has given you some good feedback there and it looks to me as if they would have liked to have passed your report but without adequate referencing that was just not possible. With referencing you have to remember that the statements you make must show a reference to prove validity (e.g. without this you could have made the whole thing up – hypothetically!) So although it may not come naturally to you when you write reports for work, when you write anything academic you MUST show where you have acquired the information.
Remember though that you should use your own words to explain things as it is not good academic practice to copy and paste chunks of someone’s work and use their words EVEN if you are showing where it has come from (I suspect that is why they failed you on understanding e.g. you did not demonstrate that you understood what you were writing as you used someone else’s words – and make no mistake the electronic checking system will identify sources for the marker so they know when they aren’t the student’s original words).
To answer your questions:
1. You need to spend time going through your work thoroughly and inserting intext references and listing these fully in your reference list (see the Harvard Referencing forum as I really cannot repeat all the requirements here)2. You have to use the latest audited annual report and the rules on this are on p.39 of the Information Pack. If you don’t you can be failed but you are not expected to use interim statements so the reports you have listed are the correct ones for P30.
April 11, 2015 at 9:25 am #240872@zoraiz – what the marker is telling you is that they want researched reasons that go beyond just stating obvious differences in the companies’ performances.
So what you need to do is integrate your SWOT and PESTLE into your financial analysis much better e.g. how have the companies’ managers built on the identified strengths and seized opportunities? Also read the CEO and Directors reports for the last few years and consider the strategies and decisions they have taken and how these have impacted on the results. Particularly try to look at the 3 years as a continuous cycle rather than 3 separate years as decisions are not made on the first day of each financial year and their impact ends on the last day – they overlap years, there are time lags etc. Read my article on Evaluation as I demonstrate this strategic decision and SWOT approach
https://opentuition.com/obu/tackle-evaluation-analysis-rap-part-1/
Also go to page 3 of this forum and scroll up to the reply by The Learning Luminarium dated 25 March 2015 to @Sartl as that also gives some excellent advice
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Dear @trephena
My marker’s overall Research Report Assessment comments were as follows:
Research Report Assessment F
Reasons for fail and advice for improvement:
You are close to a pass standard – in your re-submission if you improve your referencing (and update your RAP with the latest accounts if available) you have a very good chance of success.I have been failed on the ‘Information gathering and Referencing’ and ‘Evaluation of information, analysis and conclusions’ parts both due to ‘poor referencing’, ‘many claims and facts given that are not attributed’ as suggested by the marker.
I understand why I failed the Information gathering and referencing part.
But I failed the ‘Evaluation of information, analysis and conclusions’ part too and this has been only because the marker could not ascertain if it was my work which was assessed due to the poor referencing.According to the marker’s comments, does this mean that my analysis and evaluation was lacking in content or simply it was poorly referenced?
Do I have to change the content or simply I reference the sources properly? I do not intend to alter the content because the annual reports for the next financial period has not yet been published.
Thank you
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