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  • This topic has 9 replies, 3 voices, and was last updated 10 years ago by John Moffat.
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  • June 8, 2014 at 8:01 pm #175272
    ayman
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    Quick question if you please ?

    at the mock exam section B1 when calculating the the NPV and Payback period, we didn’t add back the 56000 amount of depreciation each year back to the 90000 inflows, however in a question like like the following one we consider it and added back, i am confused with that point, could you please clear it ?..

    A company is considering an investment of $400000 in new machinery. The machinery is expected to yield incremental profits over the next five years as follows:

    Year Profits($)
    1 175000
    2 225000
    3 340000
    4 165000
    5 125000

    Thereafter, no incremental profits are expected and the machinery will be sold. It is company policy to depreciate machinery on a straight line basis over the life of the asset. The machinery is expected to have a value of $50000 at the end of year 5.

    Calculate the payback period of the investment in this machinery to the nearest 0.1 years.

    June 9, 2014 at 7:30 am #175309
    John Moffat
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    In the mock exam you were given the cash flows (not the profit).

    In the question you have typed above, you are given the profits and therefore you need to add back the depreciation to get the cash flows.

    June 10, 2014 at 9:22 am #175631
    Grace
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    profit depreciation cash flow cumulative
    175000 (70000) 105000 105000
    225000 (70000) 155000 260000
    340000 (70000) 270000 530000
    165000 (70000) 95000
    125000 (70000) 55000
    ….. ………… 50000(scrap value)

    (530000-400000)/270000=0.48
    the pay back period =2+0.48=2.48 years
    Dear John Sir,
    Am I right?

    June 10, 2014 at 9:25 am #175634
    John Moffat
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    No – profit is after charging depreciation.
    So to get the cash flow, you need to add back the depreciation.

    So in year 1, the profit is 175,000; the depreciation is 70,000; so the cash flow is 245,000.

    What you are doing otherwise is the correct approach.

    June 10, 2014 at 9:27 am #175635
    Grace
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    oh yes! Thank you Sir!!! 🙂

    June 10, 2014 at 9:30 am #175638
    John Moffat
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    You are welcome 🙂

    June 10, 2014 at 3:59 pm #175726
    ayman
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    ah ok, thanks 🙂

    June 10, 2014 at 6:09 pm #175780
    John Moffat
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    You are welcome as well 🙂

    June 10, 2014 at 6:29 pm #175788
    ayman
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    Mr.Moffat . based on ur experience.. i had the F3 exam today i just made a very stupid mistake .. at section B he asked about making the Consolidated sofp and i made it however it was imbalanced with the amount of goodwill i forget to add it, however i calculated it in the other page, does that mean that i will lose the hole 15 Mark ??

    June 11, 2014 at 6:49 am #175872
    John Moffat
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    No – you will not lose all 15 marks.

    Each part of your workings is marked separately and you will get marks for everything that you did correctly.

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