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- October 22, 2014 at 12:30 pm #205389
Sorry period would be 01 April 2011 till 31 March 2014….
October 22, 2014 at 12:48 pm #205390Hi
Ok
So do I present my topic as an analysis of the business and financial performance of XYZ PLC between 2011 – 2014?
RegardsOctober 22, 2014 at 1:01 pm #205391your title would be “An Evaluation of the Business and Financial Performance of XXX between 01 April 2011 to 31 March 2014.
Please refer pg. 26 (Section 7.b) of Information Pack as this aspect explained there.
October 22, 2014 at 1:29 pm #205395Hi
Thank you for the clarification.
I have just checked on OBU info pack and the explanation is there.
RegardsOctober 22, 2014 at 8:50 pm #205488Hi trephena
I am doing a SWOT and Value Chain Analysis for the main company and calculating ratios for both companies.
Is this a good combination?
October 23, 2014 at 9:54 am #205545@obuahmed – it depends on how well you apply them and link then to your analysis. SWOT & PESTLE are usually easier in this respect but the Value chain can also be useful. Remember models are not supposed to be used in isolation but tied to the financial analysis to explain the company performance.
October 23, 2014 at 4:22 pm #205655@trephena
is it necessary to write on limitations in part 3 after doing the analysis?i am aware of the limitations being covered in part 2 under info gathering and accounting/business techniques
under info gathering i talked about- time limitations and excessive info online
under accounting/business techniques i talked about- general limitations of ratio analysis, pest and swot.
but what i mean is, for example, something along the lines of not being able to find info on current ratio/payables/recievables due to info being little to none in annual reports or online, and it being internal to the company. therefore not being able to write much on this aspect. or something like that
is it required to do so? im already struggling with word count, but im worried about failing on the account of not self reflecting in the RAP. i have read that it is important to self reflect on both SLS and RAP.
please advise.
October 23, 2014 at 6:25 pm #205683AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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hi fatema
would u mind to give me some idea about referencing I am facing difficulty on referencing.
I am also doing on Tesco and Sainsbury so we can discuss our problemsthank u
October 24, 2014 at 4:15 am #205708@pallavirai & Trephena
While not directed to us, do allow us to contribute our thoughts in addressing your concern on limitations and reflection. Hopefully it helps. Trephena could then add on with her expertise and smooth out whatever rough edges we have 🙂
1) When it comes to limitations of ratios, we find that a superior form of reflection is considering whether the conclusion you derive from the ratio is strong. It may rest on certain assumptions or it could be interpreted in another way. It would then be good to recognize that as a limitation – this would show both reflection and analysis.
E.g. The Asset Turnover ratio has been low for the past years of 2012 and 2013. A possible reason is that the huge investment made 2011 for new retail stores are slowly gaining momentum. New investments need time to generate sales/returns. However, another interpretation is that the 2011 investments were not good ones, maybe they were in sectors where competition is damagingly high. The bad investments thus drag the Asset Turnover downwards.
A student might thus conclude that while he finds the trend worrying and it does look like bad investments were made, more time is needed to fully see the consequences of the investments.2) While, it is understandable (and common) that information is not available, we usually do not encourage the frequent statement of that (once or twice is fine). The student will have to give his opinion on what the ratio means to him and try his best to find information from industry or the economy to back it up.
If really NOTHING can be found on that ratio, ask yourself: Is it really necessary for my report? Maybe nothing can be found because that ratio is not a relevant one for my industry? E.g. service industries (e.g. consulting) would not be concerned about inventory turnover. Words could then be better dedicated to other ratios which have more information available.
Again, hope this helps!
The Learning Luminarium
October 24, 2014 at 9:08 am #205795First a few thanks and apologies to:
Associates at The Learning Luminarium – many thanks for their sensible advice :-)(remember although I am ‘up’ on assessment criteria and academic content, their expertise is actually helping students on a day to day basis face-to-face with putting their RAPs together from ‘scratch’ so can empathise with many of the actual problems you experience along your RAP journey, some of which I am not aware of). Oh and many thanks for reiterating how pointless some ratios are for some companies and how ratios should be appropriate for the particular company
@Zaheen – sorry I seem to have ignored your query – I think TLL have covered some of this indirectly. It is fine to ‘repeat’ reasons if they affect more than one area of operations – in fact it is good that you are recognising that ratios are not to be viewed in isolation but are inter-related as it shows that you are opening your eyes to the bigger picture 🙂 (Do not forget though that you will need to back up your statements with references!)
With receiveable/payables you will need to look at the trends – are they smooth or do they fluctuate? To a point this is one area where most of the explanations tend to be ‘textbook’ However with liquidity it may be relevant to look at changes in the balance of the cash components – short term-investments, cash balances etc. (My general advice is not to worry too unduly about the ‘internal’ ratios but focus on the company’s ratios that are important to the ‘Market’). You are unlikely be failed if your payables/receivables comments are a bit ‘routine explanations’ but the rest of your analysis is good, but you could be if you gloss over important areas like GP and the investor ratios or resort to statements of the obvious for these particular sections….
I think I have covered your query regarding Conclusions above (see the post September 20, 2014 at 7:23 pm)
@pallirvai – just a little to add about ‘self-relection’ – in the RAP it relates to coming up with Limitations as the TLL have mentioned above (and possibly ethical considerations too). You do NOT discuss this from a personal point of view in the RAP, you just briefly state anything inherent in the data itself that may have affected your info gathering or the analysis of it – so do not waste words on saying things like the word count restricted you. However in Q2 of the SLS you are expected to reflect on what may have impeded you from a personal point of view and you may mention the word count restraint there 🙂 .
October 24, 2014 at 6:22 pm #205857@ trephna, can you help with these questions?
Can one ignore the table of contents to limit the word count, if so can one still number the headings in the RAP?
2 Can one shorten the name of the company used in the RAP after being used so many times e.g Mobil Oil Nigeria PLc as MON Plc?October 24, 2014 at 7:46 pm #205863thankyou @LearningLuminarium and @trephena
makes sense now 😀
although I would like advice on the ratios. I found it extremely hard to find enough information to barely make a good point or two on payables and receivables.
my company is Coca-Cola and comparator is PepsiCo. I have honestly gone through annual reports and online searches and found practically nothing. do you think this ratio is important to still keep in my RAP?
the ratios I have done are: horizontal analysis of revenue growth and ratio analysis on-GP, NP, ROCE, Inventory turnover, payables turnover, Receivable turnover, Current Ratio, Debt/Equity, PE ratio and EPS.
I feel like I have done a good analysis on the revenue growth, gp, np, d/e, eps and pe ratio. the rest im not too confident about.
do you think its a bad idea to remove payables and receivables turnover? because if I do then I would only have 8/9 ratios, doesn’t that seem too little? I know that its quality over quantity but it still makes me a little nervous. :\
do let me know what you suggest.
thankyou again xOctober 25, 2014 at 2:35 am #205874Answers:
1. Don’t ignore table of content as it is required as per suggested structure provide in Information Pack (ref: section 7.d.xi pg.43)
2. yes you can shorten name of your company must provide complete name with abbreviation in bracket. e.g.Mobil Oil Nigeria PLc (MON Plc)
Some tips to reduce overall words in RAP are as follows:
? Don’t write FY 2011 as you can write simple 2011 or FY2011(without space).
? 1.2 % (with space) can write as 1.2% (without space)
? Try to merge long paras into small paras.
? Try to remove spaces in references or other words like USD 50 can write as USD50 etc.Thanks,
October 25, 2014 at 2:44 am #205875As there are five major categories of ratios i.e. Profitability, Short term solvency, long term solvency, working capital and shareholders’ ratios. if you ignore one particular category (i.e. Working capital ratios) due to non availability of information then it is fine.
I mentored many students and most of the student don’t provide explanation on Working Capital ratios so you can ignore payables and receivables turnover.
PS: Make sure you cover at least four major categories of ratios out of five to get good grades in your RAP.
October 25, 2014 at 7:00 am #205880I am having a problem , My financial statements do not breakdown NCA and CA, its an insurance company the problem has come with classifying held to maturity investments, Available for sale investments and financial assets at fvtpl.
And also another issue is on assets held for sale, were do i include these on my ration calculation???/
October 25, 2014 at 2:17 pm #205923thankyou 🙂
October 25, 2014 at 2:39 pm #205924If specific information not provided on FS then you can use many other ratios. Your main objective under financial analysis is to analyse performance of the company rather then analyzing it under specific ratios. Better to choose any other ratio to analyse it.
Thanks.
October 25, 2014 at 4:12 pm #205939@ Ahmad thank you very much
October 25, 2014 at 5:16 pm #205945@Blowy – your evaluation and analysis is far more important than a contents page – if you are going to skimp on one make sure it is the latter. I have never seen a student failed for not having one but it is possible if the rest of their Presentation of Findings is poor the marker could pick up on this.
By contrast more than 50% of the fails are on E & A – so the facts speak for themselves 🙁
October 25, 2014 at 5:42 pm #205950Thanks @ trephna, I would improve my analysis, can I shorten the name of Company to reduce the word count after writing it fully so many times
October 25, 2014 at 11:12 pm #205979@trephena within SWOT analysis. can we construct points based on our opinion and view? for e.g: my co. has invested its surplus cash in govt. securities and bonds, can i criticise this with the tone such as “although the investment is almost risk free, i believe management needs to build up its risk appetite and invest into more rewarding opportunities” and reasoning my statement with facts that inflation and devaluation of Pak ruppees with major currencies breakevens the return earned from govt. securities.
and later in final part of RAP, in recomendations i can give management advice to hold foriegn currencies as devaluation of local curency plus 80% of raw materials have to be imported.
My ROCE is not coming accurate to what it is in Annual reports for both primary and comparator company, whereas I have looked into notes tried to make adjustments but no way those ratios turn up to be accurate. I have also tried various other methods of calculating ROCE and its denominations ,such as replacing numerator with operating profit and Net Profit. Deriving Capital employed from Total assets less current liabilities OR Equity plus Non Current Liability.
Should I proceed with minor differences of 1-2% in my ROCE or not?Please your comments on this would be very helpful.
October 26, 2014 at 2:55 pm #206083Hi,
Please help!!!! When calculating interest cover using the simple formula of operating profits/finance costs for one company I get a negative one because they had am lot of exceptional one off items so they made an adjustments. The other company uses underlying profits … If I have to compare pears with pears then I have to go with the negative one…the other option is starting from scratch on both companies and trying to calculate a underlying profit for both of them but that would take me ages!!! What can I do?many thanks! starting to panic!!!!
AmaranOctober 26, 2014 at 5:58 pm #206116@Amarain – usually you exclude exceptional items as by definition they tend to distort the figures making year on year comparisons impossible and trend lines meaningless. Mention prob in your limitations
January 5, 2015 at 7:10 am #221979Hello.
I want to know how many ratios from each sector, i-e Liquidity, Profitability, Leverage and efficiency, should be used? and also which ratios will be most suitable to use for each sector?
January 10, 2015 at 10:53 am #222224Focus on profitability and Investor ratios in depth. For the others pick the most important/ relevant -it depends largely on the organisation (e.g. the acid test/ quick ratio is useless for a service industry like an airline as they sell a service and therefore don’t hold much inventory, liquidity is hugely important for banks) Far more important that calculating ratios is actually interpreting them in the context of the organisation being studied together with good relevant explanations from business articles – that is what gets the pass and grade
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