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MJY #50

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  • June 2, 2016 at 11:16 pm #318955
    mansoor
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    Sir

    what is the significance of companies being outside of the group in the netting?

    1. are we only considering balances inside the group?

    2. if yes, then why are we considering the the 2 payments mjy owes to co2 and co3?

    3. as a hypothetical, had the 170 and 120 payment been under the c3 column, would we have considered them?

    thank u

    June 3, 2016 at 8:08 am #319034
    John Moffat
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    1. It is both inter-group and external transactions that need netting off.

    2. If the 170 and 120 had been payments / receipts just between external companies then they would have been irrelevant. It is only transactions affecting the group that the treasurer is concerned about.

    June 3, 2016 at 10:49 am #319090
    mansoor
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    i have tried the $ pmt/receipts by adding vertical and horizontal.. and i am not getting the same answer as in the kit.

    how is one supposed to approach this?

    June 3, 2016 at 11:07 am #319100
    John Moffat
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    It is the total of the $ receipts less the total of the $ payments.

    June 3, 2016 at 12:56 pm #319118
    mansoor
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    am not getting it. however, lets say i assumed a figure of 100k. it could be payment or receipt.

    what if i worked out the hedges assuming once that it was a payment and once if it was a receipt. what sort of marks i will get?? (also assuming that i talk about multilateral netting)

    following is just in case u feel like spoon feeding me:

    mjy—-140—(290)—-(150)
    s1——60—————60
    s2——30—–(50)—–(20)
    c1————–(90)—–(90)
    c2—–170————–170
    c3—–120—-(40)—–80
    c4————–(50)—–(50)
    ===================
    ——–520—(520)—–0

    everybody owes everybody!!!

    June 3, 2016 at 4:40 pm #319166
    John Moffat
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    You would get some marks for proving that you knew how to hedge the foreign currency payments and receipts (even if you were using the wrong amounts), but you would obviously some marks for not having netted off properly.

    June 3, 2016 at 5:33 pm #319183
    mansoor
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    thank u

    June 3, 2016 at 7:04 pm #319191
    John Moffat
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    You are welcome 🙂

    Do remember – nobody will complete 100% of the paper perfectly. Your job is to make sure you get at least 50% and you will get this by proving that you understand things. Getting every figure correct is not necessary (and is not going to be possible for anyone 🙂 )

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