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@wendy 2015. I just passed my RAP and @LearningLuminarium helped me achieve this success.
You don’t have to be in Singapore. I am in Nigeria so location doesn’t matter as long as you have internet access.
@Trephena: thanks for giving us a kind mention! The results are out for the last sitting and I am sure your OBU contacts will inform you that the endorsement is not misplaced 🙂
@Unyimeedem: we appreciate the accurate statement that the Internet makes mentorship possible, anywhere u are!!
More importantly, congratulations on passing! I know you worked very hard and you deserve this achievement. Have a nice celebration!Irwin
The Learning Luminarium@LearningLuminarium – I have no doubt that you have again returned some excellent results Irwin.
After I was attacked by @michaelg so savagely and personally last November for recommending you I felt I must be more impartial publically whatever my personal views on mentoring were! 🙂
I understand that Adrian achieved a 100% pass rate for the report itself. I don’t have the ability to find out every single mentor’s achievements but I suspect very few mentors if any at all could match that over nearly 20 students! It is undeniably excellent so well done! TLL 😀
(PS Was this a joint effort by you both? I wasn’t able to discover anything for you yourself Irwin but maybe I don’t have your name right !)
@trephena – It is regrettable that the recommendation led to such comments from @michaelg but I am glad to see our track record supports the fact that your selection was not subjective or biased!
Yes, Adrian is a brilliant OBU mentor and I peg him as one of the best in the world at this. He truly challenges the thinking of students and helps them broaden their perspective. It is not a surprise that he has a 100% pass rate for the report.
To your question – his pass rate is his own. It is not a joint effort under his name 🙂
Please feel free to check out my results for the recent sitting, my full name is Luo Weijie Irwin. If the feedback I got from my students are complete and accurate (which they should!), I attained a 100% pass rate for this sitting.
So this is a wonderful semester for The Learning Luminarium!
All said, it is important for us to realistically state that we don’t believe a 100% pass rate is sustainable and future students should not join us thinking that we guarantee a pass. No guarantee exists. The vast majority of the credit has to go to the batches of students we were so fortunate to have. Naturally, each had different academic abilities but all had the common denominator of being hardworking, humble and open to constructive criticism.
As we do not cherry-pick students, I don’t foresee the 100% pass rates staying. But I dare foresee that we will still have high pass rates that validate your recommendation!
Irwin
The Learning LuminariumWhen you have the likes of this guy who cannot even be bothered to make sure that his own sales pitch (and lets face it, it is nothing else but a sales pitch) – one is led to believe that the system that OBU has implemented has done an excellent job at achieving completely the opposite of is required.
For example, my current ACCA mentor at my workplace, a brilliant accountant and an excellent all round person would have been very likely to have agreed to have guided me through the RAP had it not been for the ridiculous idea of him having to ‘complete a mentor course and part from £80 of his hard-earned cash for the privilege’…and let us take a moment to reflect on this: the man in question keeps up with the required CPD, produces a variety of reports for senior level management and has to at all times be aware of the financial decisions and implications of those decisions that his staff take. Oh, coincidentally, he has been preparing and developing accountants for two generations…but no, he is definitely not an appropriate person, because as my friend above Mr Qureshi, he is not an OBU Registered Mentor (which is nice, because of all his achievements that he could brag about, this is probably his most notable – and I congratulate him for having been able to afford the £80.00 fee, which in turn will enable him to leverage that £80.00 to turn it into at least £300.00 by signing up people such as myself who have no choice but to go and use his services.
Oh, and as the learning luminarium (catchy name btw) mentioned, reading your work, is not necessarily something they provide (if the price is not to their liking) – so how exactly these lovely people exploiting this deeply flawed system are able to confirm that my work produced is my own work and I have not plagiarized – is beyond my comprehension.
That brings me to my last point. I have received sales pitches from the OBU mentors site with ‘suggestions’ of other services that ‘friends’ of mentors can provide for me. So if I decided that doing my own work is just too much of a chore and ‘uncool’ I could always use the services of a ‘registered mentor’ – which hopefully will stimulate the freelance sector of providing work not completed by the intended student, to become more competitive.
The above does not even address the English language aspect of the whole experience – which for a professional and academic research project a naive person like me would think it to be quiet a ‘biggie’.
Welcome to the wild wild west!
That said, anyone keen on being my mentor? All you need to do is, sign at the end that I have met the requirements set by OBU. You do not need to guide me or provide even the most minimal of service. The only demand that I place is that you take care when counting my money while you are laughing all the way to the bank!
I suggest that you forward your diatribe to OBU itself.
You may be interested to know that OBU originally envisaged the mentor to be a workplace supervisor such as the boss you mention who would have carried out the task perhaps without any payment whatsoever. That situation existed as a possibility until P31 in fact the era of the paid mentor started to emerge only about 6 years ago.
To a certain extent I agree with most of your comments but what is the difference between paying any professional for their services and paying TLL (since you cite them) for their technical expertise? ? As an accountant can you honestly, hand on heart say you would be prepared to work for free? (BTW you may be surprised to learn that apart from some payment for articles, my work on this forum is largely unpaid and done as a gesture of goodwill to help those students in some parts of the world where the cost of a mentor and the submission fee represent a month’s wages -unlike you I suspect where the ratio of total RAP costs to take home pay is no doubt significantly lower? )
Personally I would prefer OBU to increase the submission fee to include mentoring and take it ‘in-house’ and use their own staff to ensure quality and integrity (as happens with on campus students). I suspect the logistics of this world be difficult in terms of availability of staff however.
Perhaps too you are overlooking one line in your argument – the business you are in yourself – some small businesses ressent having to pay expensive partner rate accountancy fees (especially when junior staff have carried out the bulk of the work) but as that is the normal practice they can’t do much about it and just have to put up and shut up!
I don’t have any mentors in my area…
Can you chose mentor from here?
anyone willing?
Hi. I am urgently looking for a project mentor who lives in Nairobi, Kenya. you can contact me through lnatalia099@gmail.com.
Thank you.
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Does OBU confirms about mentorship of a student from his / her mentor?
My mentor is demanding more money in order to verify my mentorship with him ? kindly Help
I understand that an automatic email is sent to the mentor after you have uploaded which the mentor then just has to click to reply (or do something pretty basic along those lines).
If your mentor is demanding extra money for this then it is outrageous! Provided you have paid all the fees that were agreed at the outset before submission they have no grounds to do this. I suggest you expose their unscrupulous behaviour by contacting the ACCA BSc Office and send any emails from the mentor demanding more money as proof. Such underhand tactics need to be dealt with and the mentor reprimanded or even banned. Don’t worry about it affecting your submission chances – it is unlikely to have any detrimental outcome at all for you as long as you show you used a mentor listed at the time of submission and did the work yourself.
Apparently some mentors have been removed from the list already for a variety of reasons and OBU wants to promote higher ethical standards of mentors so don’t be afraid of telling them the truth.
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@trephena
I am submitting the project second time using the details of same mentor, does OBU reconfirms second time?I believe so.
The purpose of the mentor (from the OBU side) is to verify that the Presentation took place and the work is yours. I suggest you contact the OBU office as by insisting on a fee to verify your work which he didn’t see anyway 2nd time around is exploitation and more importantly malpractice on his side.
I suppose it depends on how much was wrong with your previous attempt as to whether you should have had a mentor again. If you passed the Presentation and there were only minor corrections needed you could justify that it was not obvious you needed a mentor to verify it all again as it was principally the same.
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@trephena
could you please tell me, how much time (days) are given to mentor for the purpose of verification of mentee?When you submit your RAP, your mentor got instant email to confirm that he was your mentor. At this stage, he can reject and accept your RAP. He has also access to read your RAP online but cant make any changes
How do i know that?
Well, my mentor told me. When i submitted my RAP, he call me to confirmed that is it really me who did that or someone is using my account. He also told me that I did not make one correction in reference which he told me :v lolz
In your case, i believe you are using the detail of your old mentor without his intention that’s why he is asking for more fee.. You need to have mentor even if you have passed the presentation. I know my friends who paid their mentors second time for new submissions where their SLS part was passed.
Best obu mentor? Learning luminarium or Anna mentor?
Trephena can you please help me with this as I am very much confused.
ThanksI am sorry I cannot tell you which mentor to use as it may depend on what exactly you want from a mentor service and how much you are able to pay. Both mentor organisations probably offer different packages to suit your particular requirements..
Both mentor organisations you name are reputable but the Learning Luminarium is based in Singapore and Anna is UK based. The LL are able to review your work with the same sort of critical eye as a marker and although Anna may be able to do this to a certain extent, as she has only been mentoring since 2014, critical review is something that comes with experience. However this is an extra service offered in one of the LL packages and may not be something that you want anyway.
I suggest that you read our Forum Topic ‘Advancing the quality of the OBU-Open Tuition Experience’ where some students have left feedback on the Learning Luminarium – who we are retaining as our recommended mentors for P33 and P34 (based on their 100% pass rate for the report for P31) but also contact Anna and see the testimonials on her website. Look at what both offer, the price and make your decision based on that.
Hi,my mentor lives in uk and I live in pakistan so is it permissible by Oxford Brookes university to have a mentor like this who actually doesn’t live in your country/region
Yes. Skype and technology mean that many students and their mentors no longer-term physically have face to face for their meetings
PLEASE NOTE we already have a,forum topic on mentoring -as with any question please post under an existing topic rather than opening yet another one on the same subject – thanks
Trephena – OT OBU Forum Moderator
@tariro21 – to make initial contact with any mentor you are advised to register as a mentee on the OBU mentoring website where you can then contact any of the listed mentors via the mentoring portal. Otherwise you may contact Anna Lishman via her official website. I believe she charges GBP450 for acting as your mentor
Hi,
I am looking for mentor for OBU project. Is there any list of mentors except of these listed on Oxford Brookes website?
Thank you
No there is no other comprehensive list because all mentors need to be registered and comply with OBU rules including the one of not exceeding a maximum number of mentees (currently 50). OBU reserves the right to delist mentors who do not meet their standards and/or abide by their rules.
It is (a) not necessary to have a mentor from your own country as the ‘meetings’ can be done via Skype and (b) you are j unlikely to find a mentor in Luxembourg.
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