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- July 19, 2014 at 10:29 am #179154
Hi,
I am a bit concerned after looking at the answers to the P7 exam. I was wondering if the marker solely looks at the marking scheme to assess whether the answers that are given should be given credit. Can you score marks for answers that are not mentioned on the marking scheme that I believe to be still valid.
I guess what I’m saying is, do the markers have scope to give credit for answers that are not mentioned on the marking scheme, as is the marking scheme just a guideline.
Thanks
July 23, 2014 at 4:52 pm #179524Thanks,
I asked a few people at my work and they all say that markers are allowed to use their own discretion when marking your paper. They say that the marking scheme is only a guideline answer.
Is this correct?
July 23, 2014 at 5:51 pm #179532Markers are told to use discretion – especially in the written papers, and especially at the P level.
The marking schemes are only a guideline.Also, there are regular meetings and if it turns out that students have interpreted a question differently than intended (because, for example, the wording was ambiguous) then again this is taken into account if the different interpretation is valid.
Markers are certainly never marking 4 of 5 exams a minute!!!!! Each exam takes far longer than that to mark 🙂
July 23, 2014 at 6:11 pm #179535AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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I did P5 in Dec’13 and failed. Of course I remember what I did in the exam and after reading the answers I realized why I failed. About half or marks were allocated on pure theory knowledge where where is no wiggle room. Another half on application of that theory which is again your ideas should be in line with what examiner wants to hear. In my case I could not see any markers discretion and considerations of “tricky questions” on marking my paper. All was marked strictly to ACCA model answer.
Just my opinion of P5 Dec’13 session.July 24, 2014 at 10:57 pm #179618Thanks for all your replies, just hope I have managed to pass the exam. If not, then back to the drawing board.
On another note, would be great if ACCA introduce a way to upload your exam paper so you can compare it to the marking scheme and see what you did wrong. I can never remember what I put.
Good luck to all that are waiting on results. Hope we all get the result we want.
July 25, 2014 at 4:45 pm #179675I don’t feel they give any credit where there is any doubt, otherwise how would you explain such shocking pass rates?
You see the issue with ACCA is one of ‘speed’. It is almost impossible to complete the papers because of unrealistic time pressure. And not content with making us grow grey hairs trying to write at breakneck speeds (that would put Usain Bolt in a daze), they make the examiners speed read your answers. I think the whole system is foolish
Think about it? try and read a whole chapter in a book within 5mins and see how much of the information you actually absorb? The answer is very little. And why would you need to? I’ve been working for 3 years in varying Accounting/Finance roles and people in the workplace generally have time to do quality work (unless you are doing junior or administrative roles). Never have I been told, I need you to prepare an NPV appraisal in 5mins. No! In actual fact, you take your time, gather information and research accordingly.
Quality is surely more important than speed, and ACCA ought to know this.
July 25, 2014 at 9:24 pm #179696I think there is a significant amount of discretion applied to the P papers in terms of the marking, although I agree, being able to complete the exams within the time allocated is nearly impossible!
Of particular concern is P7, given that it is required to enable you to obtain a practicing certificate, yet the exam itself allows no opportunity to demonstrate the level of quality required to be a competent auditor.
August 1, 2014 at 11:04 am #180291I wholeheartedly agree with a lot of the comments on here.
I think ACCA should make available your exam scripts within MyACCA (even if it didnt allow you to print them out). At least then you would see for yourself exactly what you did (or didnt) do right in the exam.
I have always held the stance that “a pass is a pass” and as long as I pass Im not really bothered whether I score 50% or 99%, but on some of my results I have sometimes thought “I was sure I would have scored higher”. It would just be nice to look over the papers after results are issued, after all, we paid to sit the exam!
And above all else, as long as the results are issued, there surely cant be a security issue with releasing your scripts – the questions and model answers are already published on the internet anyway?
However, rant over, I think we will all just have to put up and shut up, I dont think there’s anything any of us can do to change ACCA’s stance on this 🙂
Very best of luck everyone.
August 1, 2014 at 12:37 pm #180302A reasonable demand, I believe. I reside in India and ICAI (institute of Charteres accountants of India) provide the marked scripts for a fees after the exam to its students since Dec.2013.
There is a case law related to this matter where a high court directed a university for providing marked answer sheets to its students, if they demand, for their verification and the court dismissed the contention of the university that the standard of exam would be at stake if this is allowed.
Although there was no direct such case against ICAI nor it was obligatory on their part, they voluntarily declared this service from 2013-Dec.
However it would be very interesting to note that the pass percentage (finals) of ICAI is 3 to 5% and overall – average never recorded beyond 20% till 2013. Let us see what would be the outcome post introduction of this scheme.
I think ACCA can at least initiate dialogues in this direction.
August 1, 2014 at 8:21 pm #180439To play devils advocate I think ACCA have their reasons for not releasing scripts;
In an ideal world they would release scripts and this would provided transparency, and everything would be hunky dory. But we all know that wouldn’t be the case! With every other student querying their papers and disputing their results, that would cause mayhem!!!! Think of the administrative burden, and ultimately you and I would have to pay for this (as if being a student isn’t already expensive enough!!!!!!).
No doubt if you’ve put in the time and are truly capable, you should have faith the system will reward you. It is laughable that anyone would ever think that ACCA would conspire against their students. To do so they would be cutting of their nose to spite their face, and I think they are a lot smarter than that!
Also think about the unnecessary pressures that would be exerted on markers if they know they could ultimately be exposed and hounded in this current age of twitter, Facebook, opentuition.lol. Again their premiums would go up, and you and I would foot the bill (as if being a student isn’t already expensive enough!!!!!). In addition,this would also result in them taking a more cautious approach and giving marks where they aren’t fully merited, which would lead to more students passing, and ultimately that would dilute the worth of the qualification.
I’ll be the first to admit the exams are tough, but they are so for a reason. A pass must be merited, and that is only fair. I remember when I failed P7 at the last sitting, I was gutted and wanted to blame everyone but myself. Work didn’t give me the requisite time off!!! That was theeeee hardest sitting in years!!! The paper was impossible to finish in 3 hours!!! Why does the Dec sitting have to be so close to my birthday??? They are all out to get me!!! BLAHDY, BLAHDY, BLAH. Ultimately I had too face the man in the mirror.
Finally, how often do you think that someone has been failed when they didn’t deserve to be in the eyes of the marker? I’d say a fraction of a percentage! And as Accountants a simple cost benefit analysis would illustrate the costs would outweigh the benefits a hundred if not a thousandfold.
ACCA continue in you dictatorial ways (you have my blessing).lol
June 7, 2019 at 7:57 pm #519703if u expressed your answers in millions instead of thousands in NPV calculations how much marks will you lose?
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