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Loan capital

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  • This topic has 27 replies, 3 voices, and was last updated 1 week ago by MikeLittle.
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  • April 12, 2025 at 2:45 pm #716589
    muskanzohra
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    Which of the following statements regarding dividends is correct
    1)holders of preference shares must receive a dividend every year
    2) the calculation of distributable profits doesn’t consider losses of previous year
    3) dividends declared in general meetings must not exceed the directors recommendation
    4)depreciation on a revalued asset is never a realised profit for dividend purposes
    Here the Ai is saying the correct option is option number 4 but I think it’s option 3 can u explain the right answer sir

    April 13, 2025 at 8:28 am #716594
    MikeLittle
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    Each in turn:

    1) This is clearly incorrect. If there are no ‘distributable profits’ then the preference shareholders will probably discover that the directors fail to propose a preference dividend. Even though a dividend is not paid, for it to be ranked as a liability, it must as a minimum be declared … but then not paid. In addition, although most preference shares are classed / issued as ‘cumulative preference shares’ it is possible to issue preference shares that are not ‘cumulative’. The expression ‘cumulative’ tells us that, where in any particular year the preference dividend is not paid (even though it has been declared), the unpaid dividend from one year will roll up into subsequent years when hopefully there will be sufficient distributable profits to finance the accumulated dividends.

    2) According to legislation, dividends may only be financed by ‘accumulated realised profits less accumulated realised losses’. Thus it can clearly be seen that accumulated losses from earlier years must be taken into account when calculating the distributability of this year’s profits.

    3) It is the one of jobs of shareholders in general meetings to approve the dividend proposed by the directors. It’s part of the ‘ordinary business’ of an AGM. It IS possible (although I’ve never heard of it happening!) that the attending and voting members at an AGM may approve a dividend LOWER than that proposed by the directors. But the dividend approved cannot be greater than the dividend proposed by the board.

    4) the depreciation charged on the increased amount of the revalued asset is treated as a realised profit when computing ‘distributable profits’.

    So, in summary, the correct answer should be option 3.

    Well done

    April 24, 2025 at 1:07 am #716921
    Driedmango
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    Just the last bit got me confused, debentures rights when company defaults are that can apply for liquidation order, admin order and appoint a receiver.
    Can shareholders or directors not do some of these?

    April 24, 2025 at 1:25 am #716922
    Driedmango
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    Your allegory of the human body operation was gross!

    April 24, 2025 at 7:28 am #716924
    MikeLittle
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    But memorable! 🙂

    April 24, 2025 at 7:47 am #716925
    MikeLittle
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    Yes. But we’re looking specifically at the rights of the frustrated, unpaid debenture holders.

    Shareholders and directors probably don’t want to go down that route!

    April 24, 2025 at 6:33 pm #716942
    Driedmango
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    Oh, right (both comments),

    Choose whether the statement is true or false:
    “In a partnership registered under limited partnership act 1907, the firm and its members are legally separate.”

    True / False

    Why is it false, if there is no limited liability then what is the benefit???

    April 24, 2025 at 7:08 pm #716943
    MikeLittle
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    There is a limit on the liability OF THE LIMITED PARTNERS! So all partners are liable but some are more liable than others (with apologies to George Orwell and his epic novel Animal Farm)

    OK?

    April 24, 2025 at 7:20 pm #716944
    Driedmango
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    You know the example of a contract to build a wall… built to low… didn’t block the rubbish…now in mock gave a statement:
    “Even though Panagiotis has failed to perform in accordance with the contract, he has nevertheless rendered substantial performance so should be entitled to substantially all the money agreed in the contract.”
    This statement is correct.

    Does this mean he was able to build the wall to low and then be paid the full amount anyway??

    April 24, 2025 at 7:24 pm #716945
    Driedmango
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    Can’t that lead to danger “as 1 partner take control, they begin to change the rules, taking more for themselves and forcing other animals/partner to work harder.

    April 24, 2025 at 10:24 pm #716947
    MikeLittle
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    No, Panagiotis would be paid pro rata ie if the wall is only 90% as tall as it should be, he’d get 90% of the contract price.

    April 24, 2025 at 10:32 pm #716948
    MikeLittle
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    Dissolve the partnership! If the general partner says ‘I’m taking 95% from now on and you lot can work 16 hours per day 7 days a week’, apart from telling the general partner where to go, you’d dissolve the partnership.

    OK?

    April 24, 2025 at 10:50 pm #716949
    Driedmango
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    Alright! thanks!

    April 24, 2025 at 11:05 pm #716950
    Driedmango
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    3 of the options, I had to pick 2. Mock said 1 & 2 are correct. I picked 1 & 3. Is it a mistake in the mock?

    1) The wall is only 5/6 of the contracted height so the court will likely direct that Athena should pay only 5/6 of the contract price

    2) Even though Panagiotis has failed to perform in accordance with the contract, he has nevertheless rendered substantial performance so should be entitled to substantially all the money agreed in the contract

    3) Because the cost of demolition and reconstruction will be disproportionate when compared with the loss of pleasure resulting from the continuing visibility of the rubbish tip, the court will not grant an order in favour of Athena

    Thanks for all your help!

    April 24, 2025 at 11:06 pm #716951
    Driedmango
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    Sorry, it is about the wall…

    April 25, 2025 at 6:42 am #716959
    MikeLittle
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    I gathered – there was a clue in the first option. “The wall is only 5/6…..”

    This is worthy of a new thread. It doesn’t fit into a thread titled ‘loan capital’. 🙁

    OK!

    April 25, 2025 at 6:54 am #716960
    MikeLittle
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    I think that the Court would look at option 3 and agree, yes, the cost of demolition and reconstruction would be grossly disproportionate to the loss of amenity involved so we’re not going to order going down that route. However, Athena has not been provided with the wall that she asked for so should be entitled to some compensation. Panagiotis has rendered substantial performance so is entitled to expect substantial payment. And Athena should not be expected to pay the full contract price.

    I think that, because of option 3, the Court arrives at options 1 and 2.

    OK?

    April 25, 2025 at 6:19 pm #716971
    Driedmango
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    Thank you for your explanation! I think I understand it almost completely…

    Is there an error in the mock? The phrase “entitled substantially all the money…” makes it false as far as I understand…

    April 25, 2025 at 6:20 pm #716972
    Driedmango
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    Sorry about the thread! should I move over now??

    April 25, 2025 at 10:01 pm #716974
    MikeLittle
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    No, but bear it in mind for your next post.

    Is 5/6 of the contract price not ‘substantially all’? If not, what amount would qualify as ‘substantially all’ in your mind?

    April 27, 2025 at 3:46 am #717012
    Driedmango
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    Sorry, missed the meaning of the word substantial! Now I understand fully!

    April 27, 2025 at 8:17 am #717013
    MikeLittle
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    No problem

    April 27, 2025 at 1:33 pm #717020
    Driedmango
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    Hi,

    Than you for your fast response always!

    Not sure if this is the right place to post my QUESTION!

    I am doing my law exam on Wednesday, and need to book an exam for JUNE.

    I do not know which order is best, what exam is easiest to clear in just 1 Month???

    Please respond quickly!!!!

    April 27, 2025 at 8:19 pm #717025
    MikeLittle
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    Which other exams have you already passed?

    The general advice from ACCA is to take the exams in their sequence ie take the next one that is listed after the law paper – so performance management and then taxation.

    Hope that helps.

    And don’t forget to let me know your law result!

    April 28, 2025 at 9:34 pm #717039
    Driedmango
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    Sure, thank you, booked performance management for June.

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