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Liability principal & interest (2)

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  • July 9, 2017 at 7:01 pm #395122
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    https://opentuition.com/topic/liability-principal-interest/

    Hello Mike
    Continuing from the above link, the 20G is the interest for the life of the loan.
    In the link above you mentioned:

    “Interest of $20,000?

    Either:

    Dr Finance costs $20,000
    Cr Cash $20,000

    or

    Dr Finance costs $20,000
    Cr Loan / Bank Loan / Bank Overdraft $20,000 ”

    My question now is, since the 20G is for the life of the asset. The liability would be split between long and short term liability. So lets say its only 1,000 for the short term, then would i still record the full 20G as the finance cost expense in the p & l? i don’t think it would since that would not be the interest for that 1 year only……so then where does the other 19G go?

    For year 1 the entries would be

    Principal:
    Dr cash 100,000
    Cr Loan 100,000

    Interest
    Dr loan interest (year 1 only) 1,000**
    Cr Loan payable 20,000
    ** where does the 19G difference go?

    July 10, 2017 at 5:02 am #395134
    MikeLittle
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    I love it when students ask questions a bit at a time – so over a period of maybe one month I get all the important facts and over that time my initial response is made to look silly!

    Do we know in this question what is the company’s cost of capital?

    Do we know how many years ahead is the redemption date?

    Do we know the rate of interest that the lender is charging on the loan?

    Why would we even consider accounting for the interest on the loan that is not yet accrued?

    That’s like asking me whether we should expense the cost of an asset in one accounting entry for depreciation – because we know that over a period of years the entire cost of that asset will be expensed

    Borrow the money:

    Dr Cash $100,000
    Cr Loan $100,000

    One year later, account for the interest:

    Paid?

    Dr Loan interest / finance costs $1,000
    Cr Cash / Loan $1,000

    Not paid?

    Dr Loan interest / finance costs $1,000
    Cr Accruals / Loan $1,000

    Over the life of the loan the full amount of $20,000 interest will therefore be expensed

    But this is not a good question and you’ll get nothing like this in the exam

    The reason is because your scenario completely ignores the time value of money / company’s cost of capital

    Instead, find a question that involves a company borrowing money over (say) a three year period where some of that borrowing is classified as equity and the balance not so classified is the present value of the loan element

    OK?

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