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Lease payments in advance

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  • This topic has 10 replies, 4 voices, and was last updated 13 years ago by richieinspain.
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  • October 20, 2011 at 3:21 am #50160
    tahzeeb
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    Could you please tell me the journal entries when we make the monthly lease payments in advance? Also let me know the journal that takes place when the interest become due?

    October 23, 2011 at 4:38 pm #88938
    MikeLittle
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    Whether They are in advance or in arrears, the doble entry is the same!

    Dr f l creditor with the capital element of each instalment
    Dr f l interest with the interest element
    Cr cash with the full instalment

    The problem is in calculating how much interest in included within each instalment!

    October 23, 2011 at 4:42 pm #88939
    cuteleo110
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    In first month , it is advance payment so there will be no interest..

    FL Obligation Dr
    Cash Cr

    October 23, 2011 at 4:52 pm #88940
    MikeLittle
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    Agreed – question asks for journal ENTRIES in advance – with the exception of the first, my answer is correct, and the question led me to assume we were not talking about the first instalment 🙂

    October 24, 2011 at 7:46 am #88941
    cuteleo110
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    Thank you Mike!!

    Nice to see you all tutors here 🙂

    October 26, 2011 at 8:56 am #88942
    MikeLittle
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    You’re welcome

    October 27, 2011 at 6:20 am #88943
    tahzeeb
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    After the end of first period, we incur an interest expense. What is the journal for that?

    Dr Interest Exp
    Cr Interest payable OR Cr Lease payable

    This is where Kaplan makes me confused. It shows that this interest is added to the capital amount carried forward. And, it shows that current lease liability is the full payment amount due beginning of next year. Why is that?

    Secondly, When we make the payment at the beginning of the next year, what is the capital portion of the payment? Is it the balancing figure after deducting the interest accrued last year or the interest that is to be accrued at the end of the current year?

    October 27, 2011 at 11:33 am #88944
    MikeLittle
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    I have just answered this in a separate forum question.

    October 30, 2011 at 8:57 pm #88945
    richieinspain
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    The idea behind this is that the first installment is a pure capital repayment installment. If the dates are in line with the year end then interest for the first year would not yet have been paid as the second installment would most likely be on the first day of the new financial year (in the exam anyway). Therefore liabilities would be the remaining capital repayments plus the interest accrued.

    Hence
    Cr Current liabilities with the next installment – split this out between the interest payable (from last year) and the capital repayment.
    Cr Non Current liabilities with remaining capital repayments
    Dr bank
    Dr Income statement with the finance charge

    If you need a table to better understand this please let me know. Its not the easiest thing to get to grips with.

    November 2, 2011 at 4:47 pm #88946
    MikeLittle
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    What’s the Dr bank entry? Have we persuaded the lessor to pay us for the honour of using his / her assets?

    November 3, 2011 at 7:56 pm #88947
    richieinspain
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    Dr Bank – sorry that doesn’t make sense. I believe it should be Dr Assets??

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