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  • January 2, 2017 at 9:34 am #364828
    ryan32
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    revenue 500000
    gross profit 120000
    operating profit 50000
    loan 8% per year 60000
    Asset turnover 4

    calculate ROCE and Gearing and interest cover

    capital employed = revenue / asset turnover= 500000/4= 125000
    roce = net profit/capital employed
    so 50000/125000*100= 40%

    which is right as per answer in kaplan

    problem is in gearing = debt/equity+debt
    they are calculating as 60000/125000+60000= 32.43%

    now we know that capital employed is asset – current liabilities
    or total equity + long term debt

    here the loan is a long term debt so isn’t 60000 loan is already added into the capital employed 125000
    so why the are further adding 60000 to 125000

    another question
    is the operation profit is same as net profit

    January 2, 2017 at 4:44 pm #364864
    John Moffat
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    First question:

    I think that Kaplan are wrong. Because they agree that capital employed (for ROCE) is 125,000, then this does include the 60,000 long term debt and so they should not have added it again in calculating the gearing.

    Second question:

    Operating profit is the profit before interest and tax, and for the purpose of ratios this is what net profit means.
    In financial accounts, net profit is profit after interest and tax, but this is not the case when we calculate ratios.

    January 3, 2017 at 5:22 pm #364943
    ryan32
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    in kaplan book the formula for ROi given as

    ROI = Controllable Profit/controllable capital employed x100

    i wanna know can u plz clarify this controllable term, and how we we find out normally in questions if only operation profit is given.Do we assume that operating profit is the controllable profit.

    January 4, 2017 at 6:51 am #364973
    John Moffat
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    If it is being used to measure the performance of the manager, it is then that we use the controllable profit – which it those items that are controlled by the manager. So, for example, if wages are determined by head office (and not by the manager) then they are left out of the profit calculation.

    The question will make it clear which items are not controllable by the manager. If you are not told anything then you assume all of the profit is controllable.

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