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- June 8, 2023 at 11:55 pm #686604
I need books for f7 ready to pay postage
June 9, 2023 at 3:32 am #686607Tomstrong96, yes I did the same.
Then there was a further scenario asking whether they still retained control at 50%, I.e should they still recognise as a subsidiary, but I said it should now be recognised as an associate as they had few voting rights and control over the day to day activities
June 9, 2023 at 9:30 am #686633I said they didnt lose control because the biggest shareholder has to be 12% to veto decisions and the biggest one is 10% while it’s believed that shareholders are dispersed to collectively come together thats why the company still has control
Whatever is ur conclusion is justified u will score mark even if its not in the marking schemeJune 9, 2023 at 10:17 am #686635Hello
Just wondering how to check whether my exam was successfully submitted ; towards the end a message displayed on the screen asking to click ok as I was browsing through to review my questions then only flagged question was displayed at the back . I clicked ok and checked the status of my exam this morning for self assurance but It is displaying « awaiting results » not exam attempted is that ok? Does it mean my exam has been successfully submitted ? ThanksJune 9, 2023 at 10:49 am #6866391. Groups, part i was to calculate consideration and explain on it and also calculate and explain influence of PL of acquirer.
Consideration included cash, share based payment that was replaced with new share based payment scheme of the acquirer, deferred consideration and legal costs.I made a guess and expensed legal costs through PL, although I had a thought to include them as a consideration.
Regards acquisition costs I found this on ACCA website:
All acquisition costs, such as professional fees (legal fees, accountant fees etc), must be expensed in the statement of profit or loss and not included in the calculation of goodwill.With deferred consideration everything was straightforward – discount it to present value, unwound costs to PL.
Part b
Calculate net assets of acquirer
It was messy, so many adjustments of deferred taxes that will change the amount of net assets and after the acquisition the client has sold the revalued asset with the amount higher that has been revalued. Should we adjust goodwill in a reason of real FV is actually higher than it was at the date of acquisition (less 12 month after acquiring etc)? I really do not know, but i suspect that I should comment on this in the explanation part.b ii
Calculate NCI in SOFP and goodwill
Goodwill was impaired, the task was for 3 marks, so I wrote a sentence that part of impairment of NCI will be accounted in SOFP as NCI measured at FVHope that was right.
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Was about how adjustments to deferred tax will influence cash flow statement (indirect method).
Tough question. Did not really know what to say there, although DT is an accounting concept and not really cash flow, it should be somehow adjusted as an examiner asked on indirect method.
I think that DT should adjust PBT before operation activities section of CF. Unfortunately this though came to me now and not at the exam. I was panicking already at that time, DT questions stressed me a lot.Question 2
Ethics and accounting treatment
For ethics it was illegal transaction that CEO forced to do CFO.
Incorrect determination of useful life of intangible asset IAS 38, the same CEO was determined that an intangible had indefinite useful life, where in exam it was clear that operation cycle life of intangible has shortened, so, in my opinion its definitely finite useful life, so had to be reconsidered UL and applied prospectively as a change in estimate.Also, what do you think, should the asset has to be impaired? It is an impairment indicator, but I am not sure whether we had to test on impairment or not, as if we had reconsidered new UL of the asset so we can expensed high portion of the asset through PL.
For ethics part was a big mark allocation, which is good I think.
CEO definitely breached all ethics standards, we just had to link them to scenario to score high marks and advice CFO what to do in situation where she was forced to to illegal transaction. Feel ok on that question overall.Question 3
Sale and lease back questions
First part was to determine how transaction should have been accounted in the books of company that bough a retail unit being a company that specialise on development of the office buildings.
Basically it could be anything haha, I assume that to obtain the marks we have to discuss how to account the property that we bought in light of different standards.
It could be Inventories, since we specialise in office buildings, but on the last minute I changed my decision to investment property for the reason that in the question the client will redevelop this property and than sell it, so I assumed that it was bought for a reason of a capital appreciation, so investment property and not an inventory or PPE.
Hope that I had enough to say for a good mark.
Next part was to conclude sale and lease back transaction
Explain whether the transaction was a sale, I made a point that it was a sale because the transfer of risk and rewards has happened (legal title was passed + we leased back property for time much less than remaining UL even with the option to buy it as the option stated that to buy it back we had to pay extra 50% on FV, so I conclude that is not going to happen because in substance no one will pay that extra.Part 4
Management commentary explain what it is, how it ally to ESG and investor issues on MC
Made points on MC practice statement
Issues that is not part of IFRS, potentially can be lacked of quality characteristic as it mostly narrative etcPart 2 was on alternative perfomance measures (APMs).
EBITDAR used in management commentary and how it can be misleading
Wrote something that MC should be written is simple language etc
Note that EBITDAR was strangely calculated adding prior years amortisation
And couple more pointsKey things that I took after the exam:
1. To practice more on narrative part as english is not my native so its takes additional time to clearly present what i want to say
2. If I cannot state something straight away in simple language – that will add stress my brain in exam situation and i will potentially lose marks, so in the practice almost always using short clear sentence is a way to pass
3. Paying more attention to the details during preparation, it may sounds ok during preparation until you try to write something 🙂
4. Better time planning managementJune 9, 2023 at 10:54 am #6866401. Groups, part i was to calculate consideration and explain on it and also calculate and explain influence of PL of acquirer.
Consideration included cash, share based payment that was replaced with new share based payment scheme of the acquirer, deferred consideration and legal costs.I made a guess and expensed legal costs through PL, although I had a thought to include them as a consideration.
Regards acquisition costs I found this on ACCA website:
All acquisition costs, such as professional fees (legal fees, accountant fees etc), must be expensed in the statement of profit or loss and not included in the calculation of goodwill.With deferred consideration everything was straightforward – discount it to present value, unwound costs to PL.
Part b
Calculate net assets of acquirer
It was messy, so many adjustments of deferred taxes that will change the amount of net assets and after the acquisition the client has sold the revalued asset with the amount higher that has been revalued. Should we adjust goodwill in a reason of real FV is actually higher than it was at the date of acquisition (less 12 month after acquiring etc)? I really do not know, but i suspect that I should comment on this in the explanation part.b ii
Calculate NCI in SOFP and goodwill
Goodwill was impaired, the task was for 3 marks, so I wrote a sentence that part of impairment of NCI will be accounted in SOFP as NCI measured at FVHope that was right.
iii
Was about how adjustments to deferred tax will influence cash flow statement (indirect method).
Tough question. Did not really know what to say there, although DT is an accounting concept and not really cash flow, it should be somehow adjusted as an examiner asked on indirect method.
I think that DT should adjust PBT before operation activities section of CF. Unfortunately this though came to me now and not at the exam. I was panicking already at that time, DT questions stressed me a lot.Question 2
Ethics and accounting treatment
For ethics it was illegal transaction that CEO forced to do CFO.
Incorrect determination of useful life of intangible asset IAS 38, the same CEO was determined that an intangible had indefinite useful life, where in exam it was clear that operation cycle life of intangible has shortened, so, in my opinion its definitely finite useful life, so had to be reconsidered UL and applied prospectively as a change in estimate.Also, what do you think, should the asset has to be impaired? It is an impairment indicator, but I am not sure whether we had to test on impairment or not, as if we had reconsidered new UL of the asset so we can expensed high portion of the asset through PL.
For ethics part was a big mark allocation, which is good I think.
CEO definitely breached all ethics standards, we just had to link them to scenario to score high marks and advice CFO what to do in situation where she was forced to to illegal transaction. Feel ok on that question overall.Question 3
Sale and lease back questions
First part was to determine how transaction should have been accounted in the books of company that bough a retail unit being a company that specialise on development of the office buildings.
Basically it could be anything haha, I assume that to obtain the marks we have to discuss how to account the property that we bought in light of different standards.
It could be Inventories, since we specialise in office buildings, but on the last minute I changed my decision to investment property for the reason that in the question the client will redevelop this property and than sell it, so I assumed that it was bought for a reason of a capital appreciation, so investment property and not an inventory or PPE.
Hope that I had enough to say for a good mark.
Next part was to conclude sale and lease back transaction
Explain whether the transaction was a sale, I made a point that it was a sale because the transfer of risk and rewards has happened (legal title was passed + we leased back property for time much less than remaining UL even with the option to buy it as the option stated that to buy it back we had to pay extra 50% on FV, so I conclude that is not going to happen because in substance no one will pay that extra.Part 4
Management commentary explain what it is, how it ally to ESG and investor issues on MC
Made points on MC practice statement
Issues that is not part of IFRS, potentially can be lacked of quality characteristic as it mostly narrative etcPart 2 was on alternative perfomance measures (APMs).
EBITDAR used in management commentary and how it can be misleading
Wrote something that MC should be written is simple language etc
Note that EBITDAR was strangely calculated adding prior years amortisation
And couple more pointsKey things that I took after the exam:
1. To practice more on narrative part as english is not my native so its takes additional time to clearly present what i want to say
2. If I cannot state something straight away in simple language – that will add stress my brain in exam situation and i will potentially lose marks, so in the practice almost always using short clear sentence is a way to pass
3. Paying more attention to the details during preparation, it may sounds ok during preparation until you try to write something 🙂
4. Better time planning managementJune 9, 2023 at 11:52 am #686643I had the same paper, but made a mistake and included Legal cost.
As for the intangible asset, I made the same point it had indication that the life was not indefinite so it had to be definite but I added a point saying that if it were to be indefinite it had to be tested for impairment annually.
Tbh it was my second attempt doing SBR and I think this paper was was better than the last one. Finger crossed I passed.
June 9, 2023 at 12:19 pm #686644Yes, that legal cost part got into my mind too haha.
Thanks for sharing!
Good point on impairment, now I think that right thing to do was to add on annual impairment test before changing useful lifeJune 9, 2023 at 12:55 pm #686646Yeah I had the same paper as you ..
The deferred tax part of question 1 was tough I agree.
I went for investment property too with the lease, the ethics one was quite straight forward. Feel like I answered similar to you guys
Hopefully done enough !June 9, 2023 at 4:41 pm #686659This was quite stressful. So first of all it was a public holiday for me and here I was spending my holiday traveling and getting examined for 9 hours :D… Due to public holiday there also was some sort of folk festival in the city and thus there was constant background music, which really killed my concentration in the beginning..
Now for the exam: Questions seemed weirdly phrased and i had to read through them quite a few times to get what was actually asked. Barely got through the questions and had to take shortcuts in calculations and explanations quite a few times due to lack of time. I guess there must be tons and tons of spelling errors.
For example there was a current issue question of the development of a common ESG reporting standard and I just wrote down the 2 points I could come up with on the spot and there wasnt enough time to brainstorm for any more.
So lets see, hopefully my waffling around is enough for a pass.June 10, 2023 at 9:54 am #686732Did anyone get that small calculation of deferred tax in a group cash flow statement? There was a portion of DTL in OCI and I can’t stop thinking about whether that should have been included in the cash movement workings or not? Considering OCI has no relevance to PBT, but it would still be payable as tax, so I thought it should be in the working
June 10, 2023 at 5:09 pm #686759Bro what did u choose between asset acquisition and business. Combination?
June 11, 2023 at 8:06 pm #686816i said an asset acquisition as didn’t meet the definition of a business as it needs inputs processes and outputs but could be wrong!
June 11, 2023 at 10:12 pm #686820If that’s the one with the one employee working on the one intangible asset, I said asset acq first and then changed my mind to business acq given the skilled employee constituting a substantive process. But like others, I could be completely wrong!
June 12, 2023 at 1:32 am #686824ah yeah for me i interpreted that it was a developer only and wasn’t someone ready to actually action the processes to return outputs but yeah not sure who is right most likely not me haha!
June 12, 2023 at 4:50 pm #686845anyone get the crypto question?
June 13, 2023 at 12:08 pm #686989Yes I got that in ethics right
June 13, 2023 at 2:21 pm #686992I wrote the same question
June 16, 2023 at 10:02 am #687118My first professional level test and no idea if I made good answer or not.
can’t wait to see the result. - AuthorPosts
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