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- June 6, 2022 at 9:12 pm #657590
Sorry, Ripley was not listed because it was a college right? Therefore IFRS 8 operating segments does not apply?
June 6, 2022 at 9:35 pm #657595It was a plc so listed
June 6, 2022 at 9:41 pm #657597Q1- Business risk 12 marks, ROMM 21 MARKS, Audit procedures 6 marks, Ethical issue 7 marks.
Q2 Forensic accounting ethical issue, matters to consider before accepting client. 8 marks
B) Audit procedures 9 marks
C) evaluation of internal control systems 8 marks
Q3 Part b was audit report and opinion 5 marks.
Part a -was a mixture of sale of subsidiary, no disclosure made by director.
Overseas subs reliance on local auditor and audit evidence on working papers.
Third subsidiary can’t remember right now.Time management was the key but unfortunately could not maintain this. Therefore end up with missing easy marks on section B.
June 6, 2022 at 9:56 pm #657598Hello everyone,
I had following questions in my exam:1. There was question concerning the Gemini Group, where two subsidiaries were supermarkets chain and one was providing bank services.
a) Evaluate business Risk (Exchange Rates as one subsidiary was in another country, Rivalry with other supermarket chain, Inventory Management, New accounting system, Higher gearing and going concern, Highly regulated industry of banking services entity)
b) Risk of material misstatements (Exchange Rates IAS 21, Provision IAS 37, Management bias, Renovation of supermarkets IAS 16, Inventory Valuation IAS 2, IFRS 3 and IAS 28 on accounting treatment, IAS 1 as one subsidiary has non IFRS accounting etc.)
c) Provide audit procedures concerning capital expenditure (renovation of supermarkets)
d) Explain ethical matters (Self-interest as contingent fee, self-review as additional non-audit services, Advocacy as Company insisted that Audit Partner should search for new companies)
2. a) Explain matters and provide audit evidence expected to obtain
(i) It was related to sale of subsidiary and Company did not apply IFRS 5 Discontinued Operations and asset held for sale. I wrote about impairment and criteria of IFRS 5 if there were met.
(ii) Relates to the material fine concerning of non-compliance with laws. It was material for individual FS, however for the group it was not. The assessment of IAS 37 has to be made and necessary adjustment
(iii) The joint venture with government was set up and how to classify it in the consolidated FS. Company has majority on Board and entity has to be fully consolidated (IFRS 3,10 and IAS 28 consideration)b) Two adjustment has been made except the material one concerning sale of subsidiary. The opinion has to be qualified with sentence: except for as the misstatement was material, but not pervasive.
3. a) Provide considerations before the forensic assignment has to be accepted. I wrote about scope of work, fees, intended users, timeline, ethical matters (independence, objectivity) and preconditions (access to data and people).
b) Provide procedures over the quantification of loss. I have provided (in shortcut):
– Physical count
– Obtain all orders and verify them
– Obtain all GRNs
– Verify all invoices and payments to customer
– Inspect all manual GRNs made by suspected employee.c) Evaluate effectiveness of IC system and why it is insufficient:
– Lack of segregation of duties
– The were not check of orders and anyone can make it
– No reconciliation of GRNs vs Orders vs Invoices
– Accounting system was not linked to Warehouse system
– Procurement Manager has access to warehouse system and can make adjustments.June 7, 2022 at 1:25 am #657612Hey! I also got the same exam!
For Q 3 b, have you written 5 procedures only?
I also have written 5 but due to time issue.
There will be 1 mark for each procedure so that means we have lost at least 4 marks here, right?And for Q2, I have written everything same as you but I couldn’t write audit evidence in a good way.
How many points have to be written for audit evidence in any part?Also, can you share 1-2 examples of audit evidence you have written? It would be helpful.
Thank you.June 7, 2022 at 1:27 am #657613In 3A, question said ethical and professional considerations, so doesn’t it mean that only points related to question should be discussed?
For example- I only wrote about fees, timeline and ethical considerations.Didn’t write anything related to scope of work,access to data etc.
June 7, 2022 at 1:30 am #657614In 3A, question said ethical and professional considerations, so doesn’t it mean that only points related to question should be discussed?
For example- I only wrote about fees, timeline and ethical considerations.Didn’t write anything related to scope of work,access to data etc.
In 2A, do we have to calculate material of every subsidiary first (using 15% benchmark)
And then calculate materiality of issue to both subsidiary and company?
I think calculating materiality of subsidiary to group was useless and I wasted so much time here.
June 7, 2022 at 8:11 am #657640In Q3 b) I wrote around 7 procedures, however in my post I have provided only short breakdown of it as the description of the procedures were quite lengthy. In addition to the above:
– Verify if the goods, where purchased on market price as there was risk that the goods were overpriced.
For Q2, I assume there was 4-5 points for discussion matters and 2-3 points for audit evidence(based on previous exams marking scheme).
(i)Audit evidence: Obtain Board Minutes that Management decided to sell the subsidiary, Obtain and verify latest FS to verify value of assets, Verify if the entity in the consolidated FS was classified as discontinued operation, Perform inquiry and mathematical check of impairment assessment before classification as asset held for sale, Inspect correspondence with potential buyers and verify if the Management is committed to sale and sale price.
(ii) Audit evidence: Inspect correspondence with local authorities concerning fine, Perform inquiry over the estimation of provision by Management and verify all inputs used to calculate it, Inspect post year bank statements to verify actual amount paid, Obtain written representation that estimation was made based on best knowledge.
(iii) Audit evidence: Obtain Company agreement and verify stakeholders %(all necessary terms), Obtain report from Companies Houses and verify stakeholders, Inspect individual FS and check the value of assets/revenue, Obtain board minutes and check if 5 from 9 board members were appointed by the Company, Inspect FS if the necessary disclosures were made.
More or less I have write something like that 🙂
June 7, 2022 at 8:15 am #657645In 3A, the question was about the pre-aceptance conditions to accept forensic assignment. Yes, indeed ethical and professional considerations should be met. However: fees, scope, capacity and professional competence also has to be considered.
In 2A, I have only calculated only materiality for Group and evaluated impact on consolidated FS. However in point (ii) it as quite visible that 1,4m of fines was material to subsidiary as profit of subsidiary was 0,9m.
June 7, 2022 at 10:08 am #657674Shouldn’t it be segment reporting fir the restaurant, nursery opened in the designated stores these are any which ways subsidiaries
June 7, 2022 at 10:13 am #657675Hi All
I had a problem with launching exam, now I have credits applied to myACCA however I want to reschedule my exam for next week but there is no appointment timetable open for next week. Do you know what does this mean, should it appear after my exam (later today) or I am not eligible for reschedule only for withdrawal?
Thanks
June 7, 2022 at 12:20 pm #657693I had the same issue, I have been checking constantly to see if it will allow me to rebook, but there is now a credit in my account. Hoping someone can also shine some light on this?
June 7, 2022 at 12:43 pm #657695Regarding Q2 audit evidence; I think that I rather should be mentioned as notes of recalculation , copy of coresspondence etc. When it starts which Verb ( obtain , verify etc.) This is rather audit procedures. Audit evidence is a result of audit procedures performed (imo) . But I think that your answers will be also marked good points. 😉
Regarding Q3 did anybody remember if the first client ( which wanted to obtain an additional insurence ) was an audit client.?? There was sth strange for me that there was an information regarding bonus fee based on % of audit fee . Am I correct ?June 7, 2022 at 10:15 pm #657806Hi @riya24 and @qwert443 I also got the same paper
I have two doubts
First my section B was not as I expected it to write as Section A but what I remember is in Section A it was audit risk for 21 marks not ROMMAlso, in section B as Riya said only ethical requirements were needed in Q2 ans in Q3 said you are a audit manager and what documents you expect there in audit review and it was not like the normal audit procedure I think the marks will be deducted for that also, correct me if I am wrong.
June 8, 2022 at 7:27 am #657851Hi @Parwadh
Concerning question in Section A, for sure it was ROMM not Audit Risk. Someone else also mentioned it in other post in this topic(@Chowdhury).
In question with audit evidence, I also may be wrong. I remember that they were asking what audit evidence needs to be obtained. Audit evidence is a result from audit procedures, hence if you only write that you have received for example Board Minutes and did not write what you have done with it(inspection, confirm etc.) full marks will not be granted. @Kingamazur.km30 mentioned it.
In section B in Forensic questions I do not remember exactly. In BPP book, where there was questions concerning pre-actepance of forensic assignment or agreed on procedures. In the answers to them there were also information about the intended users of report(to whom it is prepared), Scope, Timeline etc. Ethics was also included in it, so the marks will be granted I think. As above, @Chowdhury in his post has mentioned that in this point we have to evaluate matters to consider before accepting client and it is not only ethics.
I hope everyone will pass !
June 13, 2022 at 12:22 pm #658630is they asked same question asked last week for who wrote AAA today exam..?
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