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- June 9, 2010 at 4:48 pm #62407AnonymousInactive
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it was more than disaster, I hoped for a really good mark over 70% but I am afraid I have failed, there was tooooo much theory, and exercises were absolutely different from the general exam types… when I opened the exam book I thought I am in some other exam…it is really unfair.
June 9, 2010 at 5:25 pm #62408AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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TOUGHEST PAPER OF ALL TIMES
June 9, 2010 at 6:27 pm #62409Nope you still missed the point. Read my post carefully. It wasn’t the content i was talking about, it was the QUANTITY of the content.
June 9, 2010 at 6:47 pm #62410I am still trying to recover from the exam …really hoping for 50% the motor cars had me going
June 9, 2010 at 7:35 pm #62411AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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Nope you still missed the point. Read my post carefully. It wasn’t the content i was talking about, it was the QUANTITY of the content.
I do get the poinjt but again I disagree. Read my post, I finished with 15 mins to spare. Poor time management is again another failing of students listed by the examiners. Working methodically through the paper is a vital exam skill. Exam technique is just as vital as subject knowledge. If you didn’t have time to finish the paper, then this is down to you, not the examiner. Sorry
June 9, 2010 at 8:00 pm #62412AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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DAVID HARWARD PREPARED THE EXAME,THINKING THAT EVERY 1 PASS F6 VERY EASILY…….BUT NOT THIS TIME……LOLZ……..PAPER WAS VERY TOUGH
June 9, 2010 at 8:58 pm #62413AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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Ohhh let’s finish that unproductive discussion and wait till August.
My conclusion is:
YES – questions were different, (by different I mean style/layout etc)
NO – there wasn’t anything outside syllabus
I understand your frustration as I’m frustrated as well – due to ‘shock’ I have freaked out and made some silly errors.
And yes, I was also hoping for good marks, scored over 90 on the mock exam, done all revision kit etc… but because of that i have learned answering for the questions automatically as they were all similar and it didn’t help at this particular exam
And yes, I’m hoping for 50 too, but I wouldn’t blame examiner for my fail.
He was trying to test our brains and knowledge about the subject not our knowledge about how to answer for standard questions….June 9, 2010 at 9:29 pm #62414Was harder compared to last sitting i am hoping for 50.
June 9, 2010 at 9:39 pm #62415AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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Was it me or where the hell did that vat come from in Ques.#1 concerning the sales and other expenses, the examiner did a good one on us this sitting. I am hopping for 50
June 9, 2010 at 9:41 pm #62416@acltang72 said:
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Nope you still missed the point. Read my post carefully. It wasn’t the content i was talking about, it was the QUANTITY of the content.I made a number of blunders in the first question but was able to spot them after having done the calculations, I also got extremely nervous when the paper started and wasted some time getting a hold of myself. But I was STILL able to complete the paper, the above posters remark of having done the paper 15mins earlier seem very reasonable to me as I would have been able to do that as well if not for the above reasons.
Q1 was long yes but it constituted 30% of the marks so you essentially have an hour for it. Q2 wasn’t as long as it was difficult and it shouldn’t take more than 45mins to do unless you don’t actually know how to do it.
Q4 and 5 were the real time gaining questions, theory actually takes a lot less time provided again that you actually know what to write and are at least somewhat comfortable in writing.
I had already started doing the adjustments of part A of Q1 during the reading time on the question paper, yes calculations don’t count on the question paper but copying hardly takes any time so I thought that was the best way to use up the reading time by just doing the question which had 30 marks.
I never agreed with the 1.8min per mark thing to determine how much time should be given to a question, I was frequently able to do the shorter past exam questions well before the time but mostly the 25 and 30 mark questions seemed too long to do within the time without making a blunder or 2. Q4 and 5 in other formats as well simply weren’t detailed enough for it to be necessary to read the question more than once.If you are able to do the f6 pilot paper on time then I honestly don’t see how you can have problems with this papers length, it’s the last thing one can complain about in my opinion.
June 9, 2010 at 10:01 pm #62417Here’s something for everyone complaining.
The june 2009 paper has an ENTIRE 15 mark question on VAT and there are a total of 12 marks on self assessment. That makes it 27% of the paper, clearly people who werent prepared for VAT and self assessment and calling them “unimportant” topics didnt do their homework.
If we look at this paper the story is very similar. 10 separate marks for VAT and an adjustment of VAT in trading profits so maximum of 15 marks for VAT. We have 10 marks on self assessment in Q4(tax avoidance/evasion and your personal stand on the matter had nothing to do with self assessment and were infact free marks), then we have a maximum of 5 marks on company self assessment in Q5.
Partnership did catch me off guard as well but that’s entirely our fault for having neglected the topic, it is a part of income tax and the BPP book specifically said that a full question can come so make sure to remember the handful of rules on partnership. Fortunately I only neglected it during revision and had done it during initial study so I was able to remember some of the unique rules correctly.
June 9, 2010 at 10:09 pm #62418Oh there is a 25 mark question ENTIRELY on partnership in june 2006 and it is testing alot more of the partnership only rules than the question of this years paper.
Sorry people but those who are claiming to have done the entire revision kits were clearly doing something wrong…
June 10, 2010 at 1:24 am #62419AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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Too much was required in 3 hours…this paper was so different…hoping for 50%.
June 10, 2010 at 6:38 am #62420@gambler747 said:
Oh there is a 25 mark question ENTIRELY on partnership in june 2006 and it is testing alot more of the partnership only rules than the question of this years paper.Sorry people but those who are claiming to have done the entire revision kits were clearly doing something wrong…
i think there was no such technical area of partnership examined in paper.. we just had to distribute the profits (and we learned this in f3).. and the basis period was not to be calculated.. had the examiner given a question to calculate basis period in partnership, than we would have a tough time! but fortunately he dint!
June 10, 2010 at 7:27 am #62421AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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The paper covered quite a lot areas, attempted all, hope can get pass. The F6 revision lectures help a lot tho…..
June 10, 2010 at 9:35 am #62422I agree. More areas tested in the paper than any other past paper. And each question made as complex as possible. Everything tested is on the syllabus but they crammed in too much in 3 hours and 15 minutes 🙁 Paper resembled nothing of the kit, I can do most of the kit in my sleep
June 10, 2010 at 2:03 pm #62423Hi
What do you mean by adjustment for VAT in trading profits. Trading profits were exclusive of Vat and if I am thinking right there shouldnt be any sdjustements for vat in trading profits.
If we look at this paper the story is very similar. 10 separate marks for VAT and an adjustment of VAT in trading profits so maximum of 15 marks for VAT. We have 10 marks on self assessment in Q4(tax avoidance/evasion and your personal stand on the matter had nothing to do with self assessment and were infact free marks), then we have a maximum of 5 marks on company self assessment in Q5.
June 10, 2010 at 3:15 pm #62424AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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awful, it was something else, nothing like it, i dont think i can get over it. the level of preparation was nothing compared to wot i met. wot a day.
June 10, 2010 at 4:39 pm #62425AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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Paper was tricky 🙁
June 10, 2010 at 5:22 pm #62426AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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Yes it was tircky
June 10, 2010 at 5:25 pm #62427AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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I lost in question no. 1 as it included sales and expenses on…i did shock
as partnership was included in.June 10, 2010 at 5:59 pm #62428the trding loss question was most awful..dividends from foreign shares and capital allowances..all were bad…whatwas to be done wid the purchase of the ventilation system?
June 10, 2010 at 7:07 pm #62429AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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I found this exam difficult and extremely unfair, it was as if there had been a new examiner writing the paper!! I actually called ACCA today after coming across many forums, proving that I am not alone! As it was my first exam I thought it may have just been me, having lost the plot or something… I went into the exam feeling quite confident and came out with no confidence. I worked hard and covered the syllabus
ACCA said it is important that anyone who felt that the structure/layout/questions of the paper was unfair it is a good idea to make sure you enter your feedback on the questionnaire they have and to call them, they have asked me to email them (to the normail student email add) putting my concerns in writing! …and said if more people do this it may help! I will do this as feel it is unfair to have possibly wasted 6months of my time and hundreds of £’s.
I don’t think this is a case of finding someone to blame for not doing well, I really believe that the paper was unfair! …ahh rant over – for now!!
June 10, 2010 at 8:29 pm #62430AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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@joannem said:
I found this exam difficult and extremely unfair, it was as if there had been a new examiner writing the paper!! I actually called ACCA today after coming across many forums, proving that I am not alone! As it was my first exam I thought it may have just been me, having lost the plot or something… I went into the exam feeling quite confident and came out with no confidence. I worked hard and covered the syllabusACCA said it is important that anyone who felt that the structure/layout/questions of the paper was unfair it is a good idea to make sure you enter your feedback on the questionnaire they have and to call them, they have asked me to email them (to the normail student email add) putting my concerns in writing! …and said if more people do this it may help! I will do this as feel it is unfair to have possibly wasted 6months of my time and hundreds of £’s.
I don’t think this is a case of finding someone to blame for not doing well, I really believe that the paper was unfair! …ahh rant over – for now!!
I do understand your frustration, but this is your first exam and when you have completed more and gained more experience you will get to know that ACCA do this with the exams all the time. It’s not that they are unfair, just that their exams are challenging.
Exam technique is a vital skill and ACCA know students will freak when they see the change of paper (I don’t really see it was THAT different). The trick with any exam is deep breath, get rid of the negative thoughts and gradually work your way through the question doing what you can and picking up as many marks as possible.
The reason the pass rate is 50% is exactly why the exams seem tough. They could make them easier but with a much higher pass mark but this vital skill of coping under pressure would be harder to test.
Hard questions – yes, but with a fair pass rate (50%)
What I would say is don’t get too down now. Experience also tells me that when I feel I’ve done really badly on a paper I often have done quite well. (7 exams now avg 69% and no fails) and I thought I’d failed a few.
Just wait till the results come out, you may be surprised. If you have revised hard and covered the sylabus you stand a good chance. Belive me, I never try to guess what i have got as a mark because I have been surprised in the past.
Good Luck
June 10, 2010 at 8:32 pm #62431What do you mean by adjustment for VAT in trading profits. Trading profits were exclusive of Vat and if I am thinking right there shouldnt be any sdjustements for vat in trading profits.
Yes but you still have to include those items with a “0”. Basically you had to show that they dont require adjustment and I am sure there will be a couple of marks on showing the 0.
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