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- June 16, 2010 at 5:55 pm #64476
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@jodukwe said:
In my opinion,stage 3 exams should be more like what happens in real life..a business analyst wont be given 1 hr for that lengthy case….probably like 1 week!!..there shd be no ambiguities at this stage..Exactly!… what do they expect? that a client comes to me with a business problem.. and I give him consultancy with strategy for the next 10 years? this is ridiculous.. how you can possibly attend all these questions in 3 hours? this is absolutely unfair to know all the topics and to fail… so.. is it ethical? π
June 16, 2010 at 7:35 pm #64477Anonymous
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Did anyone think to use Porters 5 forces for 2a? Thinking about it now, it makes sense as the question made specific points related to barriers of entry / supplier power/ rivalry….?
What do you think?June 16, 2010 at 7:40 pm #64478Anonymous
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paper had lots of information and when i saw the first question i felt like someone please pinch me…. he he… wrote PESTEL the a of question 1 and also mendelow’s analysis, in question b i said that problems were substantial backlog not processed, only one week for renewal payment and than the customer would be lapsed and even the repayment cheque had to go through whole the process again even if it was wrong dated, question 2 used the same ratios which were given but non financial factors like hardworking, ethical people, no rivalry in 19 out of 20 region of Ecuria, good infrastructure, privatisation, low tax rate (out of 1200 pbt only 50 was deducted as tax, just 4%), unmatured market….. and in 2b i used porter’s diamond same points but just differant grouping… then did que 4 perf. appraisal was horrible, manager went to pick up children, so funny, uncontroled mesures for appraisal and many other probs, didnt knew a lot about competecy framework but wrole general sense and how to use it in national college and IMF… long paper, i hope to get 50…
June 16, 2010 at 9:12 pm #64479Anonymous
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Question 1 was a mess. I did PESTEL and Stakeholder analysis (didn’t finish) .. that senario was all over the place and I just couldn’t figure out how to pull everything together.
June 16, 2010 at 9:14 pm #64480it was just too long. 4 pages for one question!!!!
Did PESTEL,Stakeholder Matrix and SWOT in Q1
Did Ansoff and Ashridge in Q2
Did CMMI model in Q3.I really hated this exam.
June 16, 2010 at 10:21 pm #64481I did 1,2,3… I took 25min to read the case in q1 used PESTEL, SWOT, Mendlow and just talk about mission. It was to much for part a. Q2 was ok but to much to do that time was running out as I only had an hour to do the option que. For the first time in all my acca exams I used a whole booklet but still feel i did not go into details as the time was running out….hoping for a 50 it all I need to finish. Dont want to see P3 again wrote it to many time….. Exams over to just have fun now ppl.
June 16, 2010 at 10:25 pm #64482Anonymous
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@accaite said:
***** GUYS, please read this for your own good!I see alot of you thought that the exam was really lengthy and we couldnt possibly have applied all our knowledge given the length of scenarios and the time available. Kindly visit
https://www.webropol.com/P.aspx?id=448095&cid=92084973
and post your comments and concerns there. If alot of students say the same thing, our voice will be heard and the time factor will surely be taken into account giving us an edge…..
i did part, now its you guys turn!!!!
I have done this, i urge everyone to do this, as this was an impossible paper for time! It might make all the difference in the end!
June 16, 2010 at 10:26 pm #64483I did 1,2,3… I took 25min to read the case in q1 used PESTEL, SWOT, Mendlow and just talk about mission. It was to much for part a. Q2 was ok but to much to do that time was running out as I only had an hour to do the option que. For the first time in all my acca exams I used a whole booklet but still feel i did not go into details as the time was running out….hoping for a 50 it all I need to finish. Dont want to see P3 again wrote it to many time….. Exams over to just have fun now ppl.
June 17, 2010 at 12:02 am #64484Anonymous
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I am sooo disapointed with this examiner,this is the longest papert ever.Spent a lot of time doing question 1,really long and detailed questions.Can we say something to ACCA so they consider this when marking the paper.I’m so frustrated.Guys what do you think about saying something to ACCA?I spent a lot of time and all my energy on this paper
June 17, 2010 at 12:16 am #64485Anonymous
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it was very short time.
i spent all my time on Q1 and only haves 1 hour for laast 2.
i didnt get 1b at all (15 marks membership renewal process)otherwise difficulty level of question was not that high
June 17, 2010 at 8:02 am #64486Anonymous
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p3 was my fourth attempts,in the past three sits,i can only finished half of the questions,(41,46,47)this time,it took me half an hour to read the question 1, hopely only Q3b 7( mark)left untouched. i am very poor at english, so p3 is really tough for me.:(( i am thinking maybe i should quit….
June 17, 2010 at 8:51 am #64487Anonymous
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I did 1,2,4
Q1 I used PESTEL and SWOT to analyse the enviroment; Strategic capability which consists of resource and competancy can be analysed by applying resourse-based theory;and followed by Mendelow model for Stakeholder and pyramid model for mission.
I spent more than an hour to finishe the Q1(a), feeling almost died when sitting in the exam room…
Anyway, the whole exam is a disaster to me~June 17, 2010 at 10:35 am #64489Anonymous
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oh, what a long scenario it was. the first scenario was too long and its approach was diffrent from the last two sits. I did n’t complete the questions. I am disappointed very much.
June 17, 2010 at 11:24 am #64490Anonymous
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hi all,
i absolutely agree that the whole paper was too lengthy..it took me 25 minutes for reading and understanding question 1…
i beleive p3 exam every time gets worst..
i do not understand why the examiner is doing that…it’s the 4th time i have attended this paper and i know that there will be more!! π
June 17, 2010 at 11:52 am #64491Anonymous
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I agree that the reading was much too lengthy. The fifteen minutes reading time was certainly not enough for question 1. Three- four pages of reading plus the flowchart Waaaaayyyyy!!! I did nos. 1,2 ,3. I used PESTEL and SWOT also mention a little critical success factors in there somewhere. Wish all the best!
Let’s look forward to the next paper in Dec 2010!!!!!June 17, 2010 at 12:57 pm #64492Anonymous
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Do not agree on use of Ansoff in Q2(a) – question asked for non-financial measures/indicators – fit,culute , company in a mature/competitive mrkt acquiring an ex-state run company , synergy (or lack of).
Ashridge is about a parent acquiring a company which fits into its portfolio – but there was more required?
What do you think?June 17, 2010 at 1:30 pm #64493Anonymous
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I agree with you all!! It was very lengthy exam and very time pressured.. I spent too much time on Q1 (what a scneario????!!!!!)and the requirements were not streightforward. I used PESTER, Menderlowβs matris and S&W.
I was so well prepared β I would say better than ever! Due to the time pressure I was not able to formulate my answers well. I hope to pass πJune 17, 2010 at 2:56 pm #64494This exam was confusing and terribly lengthy so unfair I had prepared really well but felt really pressured with time the B questions were so long and detailed not happy at all I think because of the length I did not get a chance to do myself justice
June 17, 2010 at 3:31 pm #64495Anonymous
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Generally the exam was okay, but was just too long
June 17, 2010 at 11:35 pm #64496I must admit with every one here on the forum who wrote the P3 paper. The scenario for Que. 1 was way to lengthy. i think it was a real torture. We do dont expect exams to be easy at this level ,but at the same time, we expect justice to be served for all the time, money and effort we put into that paper. The questions was asking for so many things. We knew what we had to do , but because of the lengthy requirements and scenario in question 1 many of us got stuck. I did not even get to do que1 a which was worth 21 marks. i only started writing about Pestel (two lines only when the examiner said time up) what a disaster. It is so hard when you study hard, know your stuff, but did not get enough time to answer properly. The exam itself was not really difficult , but the paper was to time pressured. ACCA needs to know that every body cannot work at the same pace. They should also take into consideration that we are dealing with people whose first language is not english, which mean it will take them a lot longer to undrestand and formulate their answers.
June 18, 2010 at 2:53 am #64497Anonymous
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HI EVERYONE,
I ALSO AGREE THAT THE EXAM WAS VERY LENGTHY AND TOOK THE MOST TIME ON Q1.
ACCA HAS A SURVEY ASKING FOR FEEDBACK ABOUT THE EXAMS, PLEASE I ENCOURAGE YOU TO FILL IT OUT. IT WILL ONLY TAKE 10MINS.
THEY USE THE SURVEY COMMENTS IN THE REVIEW AND MARKING PROCESS….BUT YOU ONLY HAVE 4WEEKS TO DO IT, SO PLEASE DO IT NOW.IF ALOT OF PEOPLE MAKE THEIR COMMENTS ABOUT THE LENGTH OF THE CASES KNOWN, THEY MAY GO EASY ON US WHEN THEY ARE MARKING…..
SO PLEASE FILL IT OUT!!!!
THANKS…..PASS THIS INFO ON……
June 18, 2010 at 9:23 am #64498Anonymous
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yes paper was too lenghty.my paper went ok but not too sure abt Q1(b).so 15 marks are in danger……………..
June 18, 2010 at 2:12 pm #64499i atempted q1 q2 q4 but m not sure abt what i write in last q any ane confident abt question 4 plz tell wat the question actually abut? specially (a) part
June 18, 2010 at 6:10 pm #64500wasnt a tough 1
in Q1 part a i used pestel Swot and resorce audit not fully jst linked to capabilitiea
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Question 1 scenario is too lenghty!
And only 20 marks was awarded for an analysis in external env, internal env, stakeholders and mission stat? I felt that this was too demanding… Normally an analysis on external environment plus internal capability should have already earned atleast 15 marks.
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