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- June 15, 2010 at 9:36 pm #64362AnonymousInactive
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Somebody please explain on what basis Q2 was on SME.
June 15, 2010 at 9:51 pm #64363AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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I will def have to re-sit it….. Awfull feeling!!!
Anyone please tell me… Why did we 3 line of figures for amortised ocst of bond in Q1 if it was classified as available for sale and thus to be recognised at fair value/cost ??????June 15, 2010 at 10:26 pm #64364AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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ooh what a disaster. it was a tsunami., Graham Holt is being really harsh!! I ried fighting the battle till the end but lost it though., everything was a nightmare to solve., Hope to get 50!!
June 15, 2010 at 11:09 pm #64365AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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Hi All, Sorry this is really bugging me – can anyone remember what Q2 part (b) was? Something about impairments but I can’t remember the exact scenario (apart from the company name Cate) and hence can’t remember what I wrote (if anything!). Overall the paper was a bit hit and miss, so recalling what I wrote will help me sleep a bit better tonight!
By the way, if it’s any comfort to you guys, I was lucky enough to have been tutored by one of the ACCA markers. No inside info, but he did mention that whenever everyone finds a particular paper hard or considers it unbalanced (the ACCA listen to student and tutor feedback), the marking is more lenient, in which case a 47 or 48 (for example) is considered a pass and bumped up to 50.
Judging by the majority of comments here it looks like it was a tough paper – and I personally thought a sub-subsidiary income statement was a bit OTT, especially with the part sub, part associate thrown in! So hopefully the feedback will get through and they will mark leniently!
Good luck all!
June 16, 2010 at 12:19 am #64366I agree with most I practiced ALL the questions from the Kaplan kit and this paper was so contrary to what I was familiar with. I dont feel good about it at all
June 16, 2010 at 1:08 am #64367AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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This paper just knocked me down!
All least topics expected came up! Definitely the pass rate is gonna be very low this session!June 16, 2010 at 3:21 am #64368AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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It was a night mare. I prepared for Statement of financial position and cash flow. Insome statement was not taken seriously. And other questions also were confusing. Lucky if I get thru. Any way I started to look forward to Dec 10.
June 16, 2010 at 4:22 am #64369I am so disappointed that SOCI came instead of a SOFP or Cash Flow.
I would have really preferred a Cash Flow question.I never even expected leases to come either. Honestly I think there were alot of other questions relating to P2 current issues and foreign exchanges etc that could have showed up.
I think it would be a good idea for the P2 Tutor to do video lectures showing the working out of Past Paper questions (say for the last 5yrs), because the methodology he uses to calculate stuff in his lectures is much more comprehensive and easier to understand than those shown in the Answers for the past papers.
That would greatly assist online students especially those doing self study (like I did) to see how how it all comes to together in a exam type question.
June 16, 2010 at 6:39 am #64370AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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@thetominator said:
Income Statement Came up, which i had learnt as well as Disposal and loss of control.The last question on lease was partly very much of a current issue. There is a convergence project b/w IASB/FASB working on a future lease standard which will eliminate the 2-tier lease accounting that is currently done,i.e operating/finance leases.All Leases will in the future supposedly be accounted for in the same manner
Current Issues where where they?
Had learnt SME, Conceptual Framework and Convergence. Had they of come up i would have been happyDid question 3, didnt know much about hedging but gave it ago then second part i answered IAS 36 and IFRS 3. i dont know if this was right or not! but its over now
P3 tomorrow then world cup time!!!!
June 16, 2010 at 9:55 am #64371Did anyone attempt the Management of earnings question?
I havent heard of it before and i didn’t attempt it at all. I am a bit worried now that i thought of it. This question was 15 marks of the examJune 16, 2010 at 10:38 am #64372Hi all please take timeout to fill the ACCA exam survey. it might be the difference between pass and fail. Many people find the exam tough and unfair, and this should be campaigned
Here is the link :https://www.accaglobal.com/allnews/students/2010/NEWSQ2/News/3331775
June 16, 2010 at 10:51 am #64373AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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There is a lot of queries on the meaning of earnings management. I think the question does mention that it’s the process of smoothing the profit/loss by the company, obviously to make the results and position look good to the market & shareholders. One of the many ways to do that is by reporting “below the line” i.e reserve accounting. As regards the question, by reclassifying financial asset to Available for Sale category, then this gains/losses pass through STGRL i.e accounted through reserves. By doing, the performance on ordinary activities will look better wth respect to key ratios. Hope that helps. But I still think I failed as it was a very testing and time pressured paper.
June 16, 2010 at 10:52 am #64374AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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Q1 was a total nightmare. It was like they thought of every possible complication and then twisted each one to make it even more difficult. And the fact that it was on an income statement, which is hardly even covered in BPP material, was just nasty. Sounds like most people, me included, were banking on cashflows coming up.
Hedge accounting too – I never saw any questions on hedge accounting in the BPP practice kit. And 15 marks on management of earnings – not covered anywhere I know of. Do ACCA and BPP even talk to each other?
June 16, 2010 at 11:58 am #64375In case anyone wants to email a letter of complaint to BPP for the rubbish revision notes and practice and revision kit that didn’t go over the scenarios and topics that came up in the exam (can’t decide if it’s BPP’s or Holt’s fault) their email address is:
Hopefully they can get their act together before it comes to resits!! Out of interest – did anyone who studied with Kaplan find the exam any better than the BPP students?
June 16, 2010 at 12:13 pm #64376AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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I have used all 3 but found Kaplan better than BPP because they are not waffly but the best manual is from IFP (Emile Woolf) – explains in details, easy to read, and lots of examples. Wished I had used that from day 1……….
June 16, 2010 at 12:37 pm #64377AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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Regarding Q2 b as far as I remember the entity claimed that its investment got impaired but did not want to use market share price as basis for fair value and insted used different methods, that did not confirm the decrease in value. And as for operational lease, a possible new standard (long term project) MAY result in lease being treated as asset and liability. However, it is JUST mentioned in one of the articles in ACCA magazine.
June 16, 2010 at 12:45 pm #64378AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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saira3007
its tempting to blame BPP and they defo deserve their share of the blame – especially for having confusing and error ridden material.
But the lion’s share of the blame has got to rest with Holt. He must have lost a winning lottery ticket the day he wrote this paper
June 16, 2010 at 1:13 pm #64379At least BPP ‘s mock covered Lease question.
June 16, 2010 at 2:04 pm #64380@right_angle said:
Hi all please take timeout to fill the ACCA exam survey. it might be the difference between pass and fail. Many people find the exam tough and unfair, and this should be campaigned
Here is the link :https://www.accaglobal.com/allnews/students/2010/NEWSQ2/News/3331775
Thanks for this, I will be putting my vote in !!
I was with kaplan, they did predict an income statement but I cant find where any of the questions in the book were even really similar to exam, so I dont think it was just BPP that had this was wrong!!
See you all in December 🙂
June 16, 2010 at 2:16 pm #64381the key to passing P1 is to master the IAS in and out and remember that every aspect of the kit is important. I believe the paper ws a rather fair paper.
June 16, 2010 at 2:17 pm #64382the key to passing P1 is to master the IAS in and out and remember that every aspect of the kit is important. I believe the paper ws a rather fair paper.
June 16, 2010 at 2:17 pm #64383sorry i meant P2
June 16, 2010 at 2:25 pm #64384@faithleona said:
sorry i meant P2Did you see the size of the kit !!!
Can I ask how and where did you study?
June 16, 2010 at 2:28 pm #64385AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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The paper was fair only that it was alittle bit different from the past papers.
June 16, 2010 at 3:57 pm #64386AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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Paper was fairly ok. But Q1 was too much !!
However feel so happy……….. atleast I can sleep now (covering arears also)
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