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- April 23, 2014 at 6:37 pm #166017
Hello everyone, pls I have a question. In my RAP currently I did’nt include any RECOMMENDATION cuz I’ve exceeded the word limit and I’m even still trying to reduce it to the acceptable limit. So is there any implication if I don’t include a recommendation cuz I actually have a recommendation for the company.
April 24, 2014 at 8:52 am #166065AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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It is strongly advisable in my opinion to include the recommendation. I am sure there are areas in your RAP were you can simplify to accommodation the recommendation part. Make sure the recommendation is based on the findings and conclusions. Atleast 4 to 5 recommendation is enough for the company to focus on. That is what I gave and I passed.
April 24, 2014 at 9:54 am #166083I agree with Brian, you should aim to include some recommendations (although I would say it is better to have just one or two good, well thought through and sensible recommendations rather than waste words, if you would struggle, to find 4 or 5 – and don’t bother with the obvious or weak ones if words are really tight).
My advice like Brian is always to trim the peripherals (e.g. the introduction and company history). Also don’t go overboard with Limitations and all the other ‘bits’ in the first part. Above all concentrate on the evaluation and analysis – that is the real essence of the report and what probably gets the grade – the intro and all that are descriptive and routine, whereas original analysis (which includes the Recommendations) is the ‘clever bit’! 😀
April 24, 2014 at 10:26 am #166085@Brian82000 and @trephena thank u so much for ur invalueable advice. Ok so here is another issue I’m having, the markers told my friend that he does’nt have to include ratio definitions in his ratio analysis, that he could include it in Appendix, cuz of tht I removed 2 ratio definitions from my ratio analysis, but since I’m yet to reach the limit I’m planning to remove all the ratio definitions tht I’ve included. Secondly, my RR is currently 7900 including title page and table of content, but if I exclude table of content its gonna be arround 7700, d major area where I’ve exceed is d Part 3, where I’ve written about 5000words, others are still within limit. So is it true that the title page and table of content is not included?
April 24, 2014 at 10:54 am #166087AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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Word count is from the front page to references. Read through the OBU rap pack to confirm this . Note that whatever advice we give you from this site confirm with the OBU rap pack. which part of your rap contains literature review?
April 24, 2014 at 11:56 am #166096@Brian82000 I’m really not sure of what u’re saying. References ain’t included in the word count, I’m very sure of that.
The guideline in the info park is Part 1- 1000words, Part 2- 2000 words and Part 3- 4500. So altogether 7500, what I want to know now is if title page and table of content is included.
And I don’t undrstand what u mean by literature review, but the area of my RR that currently beyound the word limit is Part 3April 24, 2014 at 12:17 pm #166100Joelprof12, Title page and Table of content, in the word count, are included!
Its ONLY the appendices AND reference LIST which are NOT included in the word count. (2 things)
Also, words and numbers like 2000, in graphs and tables (inside your RAP) are included in the word count! –
Can you please tell me how much are your words in Part 1 + Part 2, together.
Mine were Part 1 – 950 words, Part 2 – 1860 words, Part 3 – 4440 words
Total RR 7240 words approx.Can you please tell me how much are your words in Part 1 + Part 2, together?
April 24, 2014 at 12:58 pm #166110Ok currently part 1- 840 words, part 2- 2010 words and part 3- 5000 words, excluding title and table of content. Are u now telling me that I should make evryth including title and table of content less than 7500 (mehn! Thts gonna be real hard work for me). But salah uddin u intially told me Title and Table of content is not included in d word count. Also d markers comment to my friend who failed in P27 did’nt say anyth about d word limit has his RR including title and Table of content was more than 7500. But excluding title and table of content less than 7500. Also I’ve read d info park and the guideline is Part 1- 1000, part 2- 2000 and part 3- 4500, did’nt include Title and table of content in Part 1.
April 24, 2014 at 1:08 pm #166111AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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@Joelprof12 I’am happy you noticed that. I can tell you are following the information pack 2013-14 very well. Read page 9 of the 2013-14 infor pack it gives guidance on that. Title page, table of content e.t.c to conclusions/ recommendations should make up 7500 words. Leave an allowance of 50 to 100 words i.e 7400 words report. That will carter for the words you might miss when counting.
(On the last part I did topic 6 which required an element of literature review where I discussed the theories I used and also other research conducted on the same topic. This helped me in the analysis).
I guess you are doing topic 8, therefore I can only help in general areas like the question you asked on table of content. I hope this helps and I will be happy to see you post passed!!!!! come September. Therefore don’t hesitate to ask me for advice.April 24, 2014 at 1:19 pm #166112I read pg. 37 or (pg. 40) of the info pack. You are correct that the Title and Table of content are not in Part 1,
however, all words except Appendices and Reference list are included in the word count 😀 thus Title and Table of content also.
Don’t worry, my Title + Table of content were larger so i compressed my table of content by writing like “Ratio analysis pg 12” instead of “Profitability ratios pg.13 Liquidity ratios pg.16 Investor ratios pg. 21”
Then after compressions like these, it became 140 words approx. only.
Try changing the sentences without losing their meanings like i showed right now.
April 24, 2014 at 1:23 pm #166113Exactly! pg. 9 (or pg. 12) has the precise answer 😀
April 24, 2014 at 1:30 pm #166115Reduce part 2 by 200 words or even more! Part 3 is the important one like trephena said :))
April 24, 2014 at 1:31 pm #166116@Brian82000 am interested in the advise you have given to joelprof12.could you also help me am doing Topic 6 on motivation.i failed due to application of theories and on Evaluation and analysis.There was also a comment on trunctation of my research findings to models and other sources of data.How do i got about it?please help,my mentor has failed me twice.i have passed SLS and most elements of the RR..i want to pass this RR
April 24, 2014 at 1:51 pm #166119AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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@batala Check your email.
April 24, 2014 at 1:55 pm #166121Ok @Brian82000 and @salahuddin u’ve giving an idea of what to do. Thank u very much, I’m not ungrateful
April 24, 2014 at 1:57 pm #166122Hi Guys! -shall I pitch in here? The evaluation and analysis – Part 3 is the most important section – and it would be folly to ignore this fact. If a student asked me if they should compromise this section in favour of producing the contents page I would respond – absolutely NOT!!!! I have never known a student fail for not producing a contents page but I’ve encountered dozens that have failed on evaluation and analysis……
I don’t think a ‘literature review’ is necessarily relevant for a RAP (it is more a dissertation thing and the RAP is most definitely not the same standard as a dissertation). You should however include a model for most topics (SWOT, PESTLE, 5 Forces etc for topic 8, 7 P’s Boston Matrix etc for topic 18)) relevant codes for (topics 17 & 20) and theory for some of the others (including Topic 6) NOTE this list is not exhaustive you have to find a model or theory that is appropriate for your chosen topic and ensure it is all fully referenced of course!
Now back to the word count issue: this runs from the title page to the last word of the report and is 7,500 words. As your reference list should be loaded as a separate file it doesn’t count towards the word count but perhaps the confusion is arising because the references in the text itself DO count.
Where the word count is exceeded slightly, some educational bodies instruct their markers to stop at the point the word count maximum is reached so perhaps your conclusion and recommendations would not be marked (so your grade might then be lower – maybe that’s what happened to the friend mentioned above perhaps?). Most universities apply the electronic word count in the Word program (let’s face it, no marker is going to count 7,500 words, are they each time?) and if the total is very excessive then the whole thing will be rejected. I’m not sure exactly what OBU does but bung all the raw calculations and formula in the appendices and trim as much of the superfluous material in Parts 1 & 2. Do a contents page if you can but I would never beat myself up about missing out the latter if the rest of my report was well laid out and the analysis was good (again I have doubts that a marker would really look at it and be hypercritical as I’ve never seen it mentioned in any of the feedback or comments made by OBU! – but who knows?)
Hope that helps some of you chill a bit!
April 24, 2014 at 2:09 pm #166125Ok @trephena u rock! Thanks for the advice.
April 24, 2014 at 2:18 pm #166128Congratulations and thanks to @trephena for being moderator of this forum.
She is an asset for this forum.April 24, 2014 at 2:22 pm #166129AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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I did topic 6 and added literature review. In the literature review I discussed the theories I had chosen to use and their limitations. I also discussed other research reports on the same topic.
In the analysis part I used this information to support my analysis and conclusions. With this style I got B grade in the RR. So it depends on the approach that you think will give you the best chance to pass.April 24, 2014 at 4:26 pm #166164Absolutely Brian! You could not pass Topic 6 without reviewing motivation theories. To get a decent pass you have to show linkage (which you did) applying the theory to your findings and producing a reasoned analysis and conclusions. (Linkage applies to just about all of the topics e.g.in Topic 8 the financial analysis should link back to the SWOT /PESTLE of the business analysis as for a good grade you need to show how the company built on its strengths and overcame its weaknesses etc and how the PESTLE factors influenced the results).
Sounds as though you should have got an A though!!!! 😀
(What I meant is that the Lit Review in a dissertation is a formal section on its own and you have to delve fairly deeply into the theory, referencing lots of academic research, articles and journals the higher the level of degree and then critique the prevalent theories – can be interesting but equally can be one long yawn….)
April 28, 2014 at 9:27 am #166538@nirmal shardhu. My RAP was not referred to ACO. In any case what is ACO?
April 28, 2014 at 10:15 am #166549ACO stands for the Academic Conduct Office. It is the university department that deals with any suspected infringement of the university rules by students.
There are now electronic processes in place to uncover malpractices by students who may have colluded, copied and cheated and the ACO will withhold results for the student’s RAP pending an investigation, if their electronic systems and / or markers have indicated that the work is suspicious. Many RAPs after investigation by the ACO, are passed but it can obviously be very stressful to be told your work is being scrutinized and that you are suspected of misconduct (even if you know you are innocent) and the investigation can take several months.
If students have done all of the work for their RAP, SLS and Presentation themselves AND REFERENCED FULLY* they have nothing to fear.
*it is very important to reference fully otherwise you may be ‘guilty of plagiarism’ – even if you did not intend to pass someone else’s work and ideas off as your own and the incidences of this were ‘accidental’.
April 28, 2014 at 2:45 pm #166589GOOD ADVISE
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