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irrecoverable debt and allowances

Forums › Ask ACCA Tutor Forums › Ask the Tutor ACCA FA – FIA FFA › irrecoverable debt and allowances

  • This topic has 7 replies, 2 voices, and was last updated 4 years ago by John Moffat.
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  • April 18, 2021 at 12:36 pm #618107
    kennigara
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    Fatima’s receivables @ 31 May 20X7 were $723800. The balance on the allowance for receivables account 1 June 20X6 was $ 15250. 31 May 20×7 allowance for the receivables is 1.5%
    On 14 May fatima received $540 during 31May 20X6

    Closing allowance—10857(723800*1.5/100)
    Opening allowance—15250
    decrease in allowance—4393

    My question here is that can i recognise here opening allowance(15250) in Irrecoverable debt account? we have in fact 15250 ID and we deduct 4393 and 540 due to refund and decrease in allowance? 4393 and 540 will go to credit side of p/l and 10317(15250-540-4393) to debit side to p/l?i this right?

    Dr allowance for receivables–4393
    Cr irrecoverable debt—–4393

    Debit Cash-540
    Credit irrecoverable debt-540

    April 18, 2021 at 2:56 pm #618122
    John Moffat
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    The balance on the allowance account does not appear in the SOPL, it only appears in the SOFP as a reduction in receivables.

    The entry for the change in the allowance is Dr Allowance 4,393 and Cr Irrecoverable debts expense account 4,393

    April 18, 2021 at 3:03 pm #618124
    kennigara
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    no no dear tutor you did not understand me i would like to tell you that if i have 15250 allowance for receivable does not mean it is also irrecoverable debt?

    April 18, 2021 at 3:13 pm #618125
    kennigara
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    Design Co has a total balance for trade receivables of $25,000 at the year end. A review of the
    receivables balances highlights that one of its customers, Mann Co, has gone bankrupt. Design Co is owed $4,000 by Mann Co for design work done during the year. This debt is now considered irrecoverable.

    let us assume this example

    Debit irrecoverable debt-4000
    credit trade receivable 4000

    does not irrecoverable debt here create allowance for receivable balance if ID increases AFR balance?

    why not also?

    DR ID-4000
    CR AFR-4000

    April 18, 2021 at 3:21 pm #618129
    John Moffat
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    I did not misunderstand you.

    The allowance for receivables is because there are doubtful debts – they are not irrecoverable debts.

    And as regards your Design example, the irrecoverable debt is written off as per your first entry. There is no allowance for receivables.

    Why are you asking these questions given that you have passed Paper FA?

    I do suggest you watch my free lectures on irrecoverable and doubtful debts.

    April 18, 2021 at 7:45 pm #618143
    kennigara
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    Dear Tutor strengthening my some weak parts in FA as wel as FR for transition SBR

    April 18, 2021 at 7:48 pm #618144
    kennigara
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    understood now great

    April 19, 2021 at 8:52 am #618179
    John Moffat
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    You are welcome (although this is not really the sort of thing that is asked in Paper SBR 🙂 )

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