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IRR non-discounted payback period /discounted payback

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  • January 9, 2015 at 6:35 am #222153
    Molly Sum
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    the below working to asked one of the question – what is the IRR %? how to define whether my working is correct :

    non discounted payback – NPV 130,000 positive
    discounted payback – NPV 21,110 positive ( cost of capital 12%)

    my working : 130,000 / 21,110 = 6.1582 + 12 %= 18.1582 whether is correct ?
    because answer is 18%

    January 9, 2015 at 10:25 am #222175
    John Moffat
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    I am sorry but either you have copied the question wrong, or the question in whatever book you found it is nonsense.

    The payback period is measured in years – a payback period cannot possibly be a NPV.

    January 11, 2015 at 2:39 pm #222339
    Molly Sum
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    The question did asked what is the payback period and discounted payback period:

    My working

    Payback

    Cost 270,000
    Year 1 50,000
    Year 2 180,000
    Year 3 100,000
    Year 4 50,000
    Year 4 scrap value 20,000
    130,000 positive

    Non payback period ( costs of capital 12% pa )

    Cost 270,000
    Year 1 44650
    Year 2 143460
    Year 3 71200
    Year 4 31800
    21110 positive

    Please advice asking another question : what is the internal rate of return to the nearest % ?
    the answer is 18% , please explain .

    January 11, 2015 at 3:58 pm #222343
    John Moffat
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    The 130,000 and the 21,110 are the net present values at 0% (when no discounting) and at 12%.
    They are NOT the payback periods – the payback period is always measured in years as I wrote before.

    The NPV of 21,110 is not correct – you have forgotten to discount the scrap of 20,000 by 4 years. The correct NPV is 33,830

    To calculate the IRR you need to guess at a rate higher than 12% – any rate, but I would try 20%. Then you approximate between the two rates in the way that I do in the lecture.

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