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Intra group sales

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  • May 3, 2018 at 7:57 am #449908
    Rasad
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    Hi Mr MikeLittle

    Can you explain me the differences between when subsidiary sells good to parent and when parent sells goods to subsidiary with the example.

    Thanks for attention

    May 3, 2018 at 8:38 am #449911
    Rasad
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    I have another question which you explained yesterday but in this example I assume that they made mistake.

    The draft statements of financial position of Ping Co and Pong Co on 30 June 20X8 were as follows.
    STATEMENT OF FINANCIAL POSITION AS AT 30 JUNE 20X8
    Ping Co Pong Co
    $ $
    Assets
    Non-current assets
    Property, plant and equipment 50,000 40,000
    20,000 ordinary shares in Pong Co at cost 30,000
    80,000
    Current assets
    Inventory 3,000 8,000
    Owed by Ping Co 10,000
    Receivables 16,000 7,000
    Cash 2,000 –
    21,000 25,000
    Total assets 101,000 65,000
    Equity and liabilities
    Equity
    Ordinary shares of $1 each 45,000 25,000
    Revaluation surplus 12,000 5,000
    Retained earnings 26,000 28,000
    83,000 58,000
    Current liabilities
    Owed to Pong Co 8,000 –
    Trade payables 10,000 7,000
    18,000 7,000
    Total equity and liabilities 101,000 65,000
    Ping Co acquired its investment in Pong Co on 1 July 20X7 when the retained earnings of Pong Co stood
    at $6,000. The agreed consideration was $30,000 cash and a further $10,000 on 1 July 20X9. Ping Co’s
    cost of capital is 7%. Pong Co has an internally-developed brand name – ‘Pongo’ – which was valued at
    $5,000 at the date of acquisition. There have been no changes in the share capital or revaluation surplus of
    Pong Co since that date. At 30 June 20X8 Pong Co had invoiced Ping Co for goods to the value of $2,000
    and Ping Co had sent payment in full but this had not been received by Pong Co.
    There is no impairment of goodwill. It is group policy to value NCI at full fair value. At the acquisition date
    the NCI was valued at $9,000.
    Required
    Prepare the consolidated statement of financial position of Ping Co as at 30 June 20X8.

    they record this amount 2000 cash in transit . and added to cash but not deducted from the AR . why?

    May 3, 2018 at 8:41 am #449912
    Rasad
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    in this an answer?
    because Subsidiary owns 10000$ and parent owns to subsidiary 8000 as a result after cancellation it remains 2000 and cash in transit is deducted from this amount . therefore it remains 0

    May 3, 2018 at 11:08 am #449917
    Rasad
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    Sir I have another question about consolidated PL statement

    The following information relates to Brodick Co and its subsidiary Lamlash Co for the year to 30 April 20X7.
    Brodick Co Lamlash Co
    $’000 $’000
    Sales revenue 1,100 500
    Cost of sales (630) (300)
    Gross profit 470 200
    Administrative expenses (105) (150)
    Dividend from Lamlash Co 24 –
    Profit before tax 389 50
    Income tax expense (65) (10)
    Profit for the year 324 40
    Brodick Co Lamlash Co
    $’000 $’000
    Note
    Dividends paid 200 30
    Profit retained 124 10
    Retained earnings brought forward 460 48
    Retained earnings carried forward 584 58
    Additional information
    (a) The issued share capital of the group was as follows.
    Brodick Co: 5,000,000 ordinary shares of $1 each
    Lamlash Co: 1,000,000 ordinary shares of $1 each
    (b) Brodick Co purchased 80% of the issued share capital of Lamlash Co on 1 November 20X6. At that
    time, the retained earnings of Lamlash stood at $52,000.
    Required
    Insofar as the information permits, prepare the Brodick group consolidated statement of profit or loss for
    the year to 30 April 20X7, and extracts from the statement of changes in equity showing group retained
    earnings and the non-controlling interest.

    First we know that we calculate and added 6 monthly .taking into account this fact why we didnt add 6 monthly remaning profit when calculating Added on acquisition of subsidiary?
    They only calculated like that

    Added on acquisition of subsidiary
    Share capital 1000k
    RE 52k
    and 40% of this which is clear.
    why they didnt add 6 monthly profit remaning profit which based on from 1May 2006 to 30 Oct?

    May 3, 2018 at 3:25 pm #449942
    MikeLittle
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    One at a time Rasad, one at a time!

    First post: parent sells to subsidiary or subsidiary sells to parent … what’s the difference?

    None! The selling / transfer value of the sale is deducted from both the combined revenue figure and the combined cost of sales figure

    Don’t even THINK about adjusting for any unrealised profits – if I sell goods to you for $50, how much have you bought from me?

    Answer, $50

    Now adjust for the pup, if appropriate – calculate the pup and add that calculated figure to the cost of sales on the entity that made the sale

    OK?

    May 3, 2018 at 3:31 pm #449943
    MikeLittle
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    Posts 2 and 3: deal with the cash in transit first … in Pong’s figures, add $2,000 to the cash figure and deduct $2,000 from the account receivable “Owed by Ping $10,000”

    That now leaves $8,000 account receivable in the Pong figures and a corresponding $8,000 account payable in the Ping figures

    These two cancel out against each other

    It may be that you haven’t realised that the intra-group accounts have been shown separate from the general figures for accounts receable and accounts payable

    OK?

    May 3, 2018 at 3:38 pm #449946
    MikeLittle
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    At the date of acquisition we have to find the value of Lamlash’s fair valued net assets

    These comprise Lamlash’s share capital, the retained earnings figure and any fair value adjustments (there are none in this question)

    We know that the share capital is $1,000,000 and WE ARE TOLD the figure for Lamlash’s retained earnings is $52,000 … so why are you trying to change that retained earnings figure?

    OK?

    May 3, 2018 at 8:46 pm #449991
    Rasad
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    Thanks a lot Mr MikeLittle.

    May 4, 2018 at 5:25 am #450018
    MikeLittle
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    You’re welcome

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