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Inter company loans and inter co dividends

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  • This topic has 11 replies, 2 voices, and was last updated 9 years ago by MikeLittle.
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  • May 30, 2016 at 12:29 pm #318123
    Anuja Nair
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    For PANDAR December 2009,

    For Transaction (ii) and (iii),

    How do i go about doing these transactions? I have never came across intercompany loan notes and interco dividends. What will the adjustments be ?

    May 30, 2016 at 12:41 pm #318128
    MikeLittle
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    Here’s the link where I work through the entire question Pandar in the video

    If you still have a problem after you’ve watched the video, by all means come back to me

    https://opentuition.com/acca/f7/acca-f7-december-2009-question-1-pandar/

    May 30, 2016 at 1:14 pm #318144
    Anuja Nair
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    Okay thanks. Salva is providing the loan to Pandar, therefore Salva has to pay interest to Pandar right ?

    May 30, 2016 at 1:30 pm #318150
    MikeLittle
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    “Salva is providing the loan to Pandar”

    I’m struggling yet again with your expressions

    What do you mean “providing the loan”?

    Let’s put it simply … here’s the extract from the question

    “Immediately after its acquisition of Salva, Pandar invested $50 million in an 8% loan note from Salva.”

    Now, who is providing the loan to whom?

    Please tell me …. because I simply cannot work out what goes through your mind when you write “Salva is providing the loan to Pandar”

    May 30, 2016 at 2:55 pm #318157
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    Pandar loans to Salva. That means Salva is borrowing right ?

    May 30, 2016 at 4:36 pm #318171
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    PANDAR DECEMBER 2009,

    For the post acq reserves of Salva, why we don’t have to include the Retained earnings ? In the video, for the post acq reserves of Salva, you just took 9500 -500 =9000 . Why you didn’t include the retained earnings at post acq ?

    May 30, 2016 at 7:21 pm #318187
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    9,500 is the post acquisition share of 21,000

    Does that answer it for you?

    May 31, 2016 at 3:15 am #318240
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    Yes. Okay for the finance cost calculation it is given as.

    Pandar 1800
    Salva post acquisition ((3000-2000)×6/12+2000) 2500
    Intragroup interest (2000)
    Total finance cost 2300

    I dont understand the second line, that says “Salva post acquisition”.
    Why we must minus 2000 from 3000? We added 2000 because of the interest on the loan note in the second half of the year right?

    May 31, 2016 at 7:28 am #318282
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    salva finance cost per question 3,000

    But 2,000 of that is intra-group

    So oly 1,000 is “normal

    Time apportion that 1,000 = 500 pre-acquisition and 500 post acquisition

    Pandar’s own finance costs 1.800

    Therefore finance costs for the consolidation 1,800 (P) and 500 (S)

    May 31, 2016 at 9:07 am #318318
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    So the answer key is wrong ? The consolidated finance cost given is 2300.

    But if i take 1800 +500 – 2000intragroup interest = 300

    In the answer key, it is stated as

    Salva post acquisition ((3000-2000)×6/12+2000)= 2500

    Why did they minus 2000 intragroup interest and then add back 2000 ??

    May 31, 2016 at 9:09 am #318319
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    Oh gosh. I actually already got the correct answer. Sorry . Ignore the last thread.

    May 31, 2016 at 9:13 am #318321
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    Two minutes of applied thought could have resulted in you not having wasted time with two posts and me not having wasted time reading those posts!

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