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Intangible Assets

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  • This topic has 11 replies, 2 voices, and was last updated 9 years ago by MikeLittle.
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  • February 17, 2016 at 7:18 pm #300861
    6shahir
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    At 30 September 20X9 Sandown’s trial balance showed a brand at cost of $30 million, less accumulated
    amortization brought forward at 1 October 20X8 of $9 million. Amortisation is based on a ten-year useful
    life. An impairment review on 1 April 20X9 concluded that the brand had a value in use of $12 million and a
    remaining useful life of three years. However, on the same date Sandown received an offer to purchase the
    brand for $15 million.
    What should be the carrying amount of the brand in the statement of financial position of Sandown as at
    30 September 20X9?
    I dnt understand this question,can u explain me?

    Here, we should approach by carrying amount of the fair value minus any amortizsation?
    fair value is the value in use, im getting confused ??
    Cost- ammor so 30m-9m will give the CV ryt?

    February 17, 2016 at 7:50 pm #300867
    MikeLittle
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    Recoverable amount is $15m as at April with a 3 year remaining life

    6 months later, amortisation has been 1/6 x $15m = $2.5m

    So carrying value at 30 September 2009 should be $12.5m

    February 17, 2016 at 8:12 pm #300872
    6shahir
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    can u tell me steps of approaching such questions?

    CV- amortization

    February 18, 2016 at 7:10 am #300917
    MikeLittle
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    Determine the recoverable amount (the higher of value in use compared with net realisable value

    Determine carrying value (cost less accumulated depreciation brought forward and less also depreciation since last accounting year end

    Compare recoverable amount with (newly calculated) carrying value

    Whichever is the lower is the new carrying value to be carried forward

    OK?

    February 18, 2016 at 8:29 am #300935
    6shahir
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    yeah okay, but less also depreciation since last accounting year end can u explain a bit?

    February 18, 2016 at 1:55 pm #300999
    MikeLittle
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    Using your example:

    “At 30 September 20X9 Sandown’s trial balance showed a brand at cost of $30 million, less accumulated amortisation brought forward at 1 October 20X8 of $9 million. Amortisation is based on a ten-year useful life. An impairment review on 1 April 20X9 concluded that the brand had a value in use of $12 million and a remaining useful life of three years. However, on the same date Sandown received an offer to purchase the
    brand for $15 million.”

    At 30 September, 20X8 carrying value was $21 million but the revaluation didn’t take place until 1 April 20X9

    So we need to amortise / depreciate from 1 October, 20X8 until 1 April, 20×9 by a further $1.5 million bringing carrying value down to $19.5 million as at date of revaluation

    OK?

    February 18, 2016 at 3:31 pm #301034
    6shahir
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    nope, dont get it

    At 30 September, 20X8 carrying value was $21 million but the revaluation didn’t take place until 1 April 20X9—- this is okay

    second part cant understand

    February 18, 2016 at 3:57 pm #301044
    MikeLittle
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    Ok, amortise from 1 October, 20X8 until 1 April, 20X9

    How much will that be?

    February 18, 2016 at 5:19 pm #301056
    6shahir
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    (15m/3*) 6/12
    My question to u is why do u take 15m , textbuk says there are two options of recognizing Cost and revaluation model, im getting confused?

    February 18, 2016 at 8:04 pm #301076
    MikeLittle
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    The issue here is one of impairment. Look at your impairment rules.

    Never mind the irrelevance here of Cost or Valuation models!

    You’ve got an intangible asset with a carrying value greater than its recoverable amount.

    Calculate recoverable amount and then impair if appropriate

    February 19, 2016 at 8:16 am #301124
    6shahir
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    seems okay

    February 19, 2016 at 8:21 am #301128
    MikeLittle
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    That’s good

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