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- February 17, 2014 at 1:05 pm #205126
Ok so I am doing my RAP T8 on GlaxoSmithKline, a pharmaceutical company. I have a list of Qs that I need to clarify.
1. Can a single reference be used twice in RAP?
2. If not, how it should be referred to. For e.g: my findings in SWOT relate to financial analysis (ratios), how and where should I link them together, within SWOT or in financial analysis individual ratio?
3. Does the commentary of ratios be equally given importance when using a comparator?
4. I have mentioned in section 2 that I will be conducting Financial analysis with both ratio analysis and horizontal analysis. What is the best approach to do this given the word count limit?
5. I read somewhere that its a good way to include limitations of business models used at end of discussion of business analysis relating to the case (not general cons/drawbacks of the model). Any tips?
6. Some of my ratios are slightly different from those mentioned in annual reports. I have referred to notes, restated financials but nothing seems to narrow down the gaps. Should I continue with it or is it suppose to be accurate as Annual Reports?
(Differences are with: Debtor days, Payable days, Inventory days & turnover, Fixed asset turnover)
7. Also, I have mostly read here that SWOT works best with PESTEL or PEST, my mentor suggest Porter’s 5 forces. Although a lot of material I already mentioned in SWOT can be used in PEST. Whereas I am not getting many ideas on Porter’s. But at the same point I do not want to be repeating my words I used in SWOT. Any tips?I will be adding Qs as I progress with my RAP.
Thanking in advance for your comments on this thread.August 10, 2014 at 6:17 pm #189234Hello Guys…
Thanks for the good advise..
I am planning to attack topic 8 and submit my RAP this November 2014.
My question is, At what point do you bring in the comparator ie the company your bench-marking?
Do you have to write a literature review for that company bench marked company as well?thanks
August 10, 2014 at 9:55 pm #189272@laemchi311 – You should try to do comparisons across the board – the best way is to calculate the figures as ratios rather than as absolute figures and show them on the same graphs / bar charts (clearly labelled and with titles) as then the differences become readily apparent. You then should use your words to explain what has caused the differences. Research is about finding out what has impacted on the results (the types of factors from the PESTLE) and how the SWOT factors influenced the management strategies when it comes to your main company. Although you will not be expected to go into quite such detail with the comparator it needs to be sufficient enough to avoid ‘text book’ type explanations or statements of the obvious that anyone could see instantly if they looked at the accounts. Insufficient and superficial comparator analysis can lead to failure for Evaluation so ensure that at least the profitability and investor ratios are well covered and try to do as many of the others as possible too to avoid this potentiality.
October 20, 2014 at 9:16 pm #205166@Soban – most of these queries have been answered previously on other forums so please use the search facility to find the answers
October 21, 2014 at 5:43 pm #205289Hi everyone, I’m also going with topic 8 but ran into a problem, hope i can get some help here.
So the issue is I’m finding it hard to find any sources for net profit margin for items like gain on revaluation of investments staff training, canteen costs! So should i as a last resort choose financial report as a reference for this or should i try to source some general factors which can affect net profit like inflation etc? And what other factors are there which can effect NPM other than those listed specifically in P&L account?October 21, 2014 at 6:32 pm #205307@sameed – you are spending far too much time reading the notes to the accounts and insufficient time on reading business analyst reports and articles in the business press. Your approach currently needs refocusing if you want to pass Evaluation & Analysis as you are expected to find genuine factors not rely exclusively on trying to guess what lies behind some of the annual report figures – markers are not interested in canteen costs!!!
October 21, 2014 at 7:07 pm #205309@trephena thanks for replying but the issue here is non of the analyst reports for that particular year have analyzed NPM in any detail. They have details about GPM and sales etc but barely anything on NPM
October 22, 2014 at 6:50 am #205344Fluctuation in NP margin occurs due to overall movement in indirect costs (e.g. administration cost, sales and distribution costs, finance costs, other costs etc) so you more focus on identification in reasons for changing in these costs. Although reasons provided in movement in GP margin section link with NP margin but you focus must be identification of reasons that not mentioned in GP margin.
Internal reasons for movement in NP margin of your selected company mainly get from annual reports (especially report to shareholders section, key achievement sections, financial performance section, chairman/MD review section etc) of the company along with articles on websites and newspapers pertaining to your selected company.
External reasons for movement in NP margin of your selected mainly get from sector reports (in which your selected company operates) over websites (especially website related to business activities or economy of country), articles related to associated sectors over online journals , business magazines , newspaper etc.
October 22, 2014 at 1:01 pm #205392@sameed -OK so the net profit hasn’t moved much? Then focus on other areas like turnover, the GP, gearing and investor ratios. You are best off letting the marker know that you tried with Net Profit and IF you have evidence that most of the change is down to inflation it would be perfectly reasonable to state this but equally you will not be criticised if you state that most of the significant changes were in the GP and the net profit showed only minor fluctuations in their individual categories that were not significant and appear to be largely due to inflationary factors (ref to PESTLE). What markers really hate is speculation (this could be why, this may be because etc) and statements of the obvious.
On this one I totally disagree with @Ahmad – DON’T bother saying that administration/ distribution/marketing costs have increased/decreased unless you know WHY. If you can tie these increases to the management reports then that’s great e.g. although I was dismissive of canteen costs if the company has stated it wants to improve employee welfare and you have a reference for this, then great, you can use it and the same would be true in relation to training if there was a strategy to improve staff training.
Markers are quite derogatory about things they can see for themselves (in graphs) or read for themselves (if they bothered to look at the FSs) – I suppose they see it as students (a) stating the obvious (b) doing lazy research and not bothering to look further and (c) thinking the marker is blind and dim. And the last thing you do is play the marker for the fool!!! So show evidence that you are not doing any of these things 🙂
October 22, 2014 at 1:08 pm #205393I only describe broader level reasons for movement in NP margin of the company. Student must research on it and try to find root cause for such movement based on information provided in annual report along with some external sources….
October 22, 2014 at 6:08 pm #205446AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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Can you pass the RAP on Topic 8 , when the company selected is a non profit making organisation, but its very influential in the Economy of that country?
October 22, 2014 at 8:11 pm #205482@gibsonsaruchera – the problem I foresee is how will choose an appropriate comparator? There have to be meaningful comparisons with another organisation and if there aren’t you will fail E &A
October 23, 2014 at 2:28 pm #205623@trephena within SWOT analysis. can we construct points based on our opinion and view? for e.g: my co. has invested its surplus cash in govt. securities and bonds, can i criticise this with the tone such as “although the investment is almost risk free, i believe management needs to build up its risk appetite and invest into more rewarding opportunities” and reasoning my statement with facts that inflation and devaluation of Pak ruppees with major currencies breakevens the return earned from govt. securities.
and later in final part of RAP, in recomendations i can give management advice to hold foriegn currencies as devaluation of local curency plus 80% of raw materials have to be imported.
Please your thoughts on this would be very helpful.October 24, 2014 at 11:33 pm #205867Can anybody else help me with my earlier post above?
October 25, 2014 at 1:37 am #205870My ROCE is not coming accurate to what it is in Annual reports for both primary and comparator company, whereas I have looked into notes tried to make adjustments but no way those ratios turn up to be accurate. I have also tried various other methods of calculating ROCE and its denominations ,such as replacing numerator with operating profit and Net Profit. Deriving Capital employed from Total assets less current liabilities OR Equity plus Non Current Liability.
Should I proceed with minor differences of 1-2% in my ROCE or not?October 26, 2014 at 5:31 pm #206108@Soban – while you may suggest the risk aversion may be a weakness just give reasons and facts why rather than personally criticise it in the SWOT but feel free to do so in the recommendations section.
Don’t over worry about the ROCE – if the company give this use their figures (and reference) but mention this as a limitation in drawing comparisons as the bases for the 2 companies may differ.
October 26, 2014 at 8:25 pm #206136@trephena when u say mention this as a limitation, should i do that in part 2 under “Models and ratios used and their limitations” was discussed?
Or in my financial analysis which is part 3 of RAP under explanatory comments relating to ROCE?October 26, 2014 at 8:29 pm #206137Also I decided to include ROE in my ratios. With a limitation of this ratio that it includes cash which is idle and does not earn any profit, I made another ratio with adjusted equity derived from (Net profit / equity- cash).
Just wondering is it okay to think out of the box?Thanks for the help in advance.
October 28, 2014 at 11:18 am #206380Hello.
In the first page of the RAP, should the title be:
TOPIC 8: ANALYSIS AND EVALUATION OF THE BUSINESS AND FINANCIAL PERFORMANCE OF AN ORGANISATION OVER A 3-YEAR PERIOD (as per Information Pack)
or
TOPIC 8:ANALYSIS AND EVALUATION OF THE BUSINESS AND FINANCIAL PERFORMANCE OF ABC ORGANISATION FROM 2011 TO 2013
or it simply doesn’t quite matter?
Hopefully after adjusting these presentation aspects, I would be ready for submission.
Thanks in advance.October 28, 2014 at 3:28 pm #206413it should be “An evaluation of the business and financial performance of OBU Co between
1 January 20011 and 31 December 2013 (Topic 8)”Better to refer pg. 26 of Information Pack as this aspect explained there.
October 28, 2014 at 5:22 pm #206447@Nick123 – in the grand scheme of things it doesn’t matter as you will not be failed if your title isn’t word for word the same. 🙂 However you will be failed if your report does not comply with the topic as stated in the Info Pack e.g. if you don’t cover the relevant 3 years for T8 or do not consider all appropriate stakeholders for T17
October 28, 2014 at 6:08 pm #206451October 28, 2014 at 6:52 pm #206457@trephena Sorry to be a numb skull here but i would really appreciate your view on it.
1. when u say mention this as a limitation, should i do that in part 2 under “Models and ratios used and their limitations” was discussed?
Or in my financial analysis which is part 3 of RAP under explanatory comments relating to ROCE?
Also I decided to include ROE in my ratios. With inherent limitation of this ratio that it includes cash which is idle and does not earn any profit, I made another ratio with adjusted equity derived from (Net profit / equity- cash).
Just wondering is it okay to think out of the box?October 28, 2014 at 8:37 pm #206462@Soban – limitations of a general nature are mentioned in part 2 e.g financial statements are historic and companies sometimes use different bases or policies in their accounts. So if you were using all company calculated ratios you might comment that you cannot be sure that ABC’s figures are directly comparable in every respect with XYZ as each ratio may have been affected not just by these varying accounting treatments but possibly with some variation in the actual components included in their version of the formula [ I am thinking here of what some include as Capital / long term liabilities or whether all reserves are included as Capital for example]. However if you are doing the calculations yourself you would of course use the same formula and include the same items for both companies so this last bit is not relevant. However should you (as you seem to be implying ) be only using a company calculated ratio for ROCE or ROE you might then include this specific limitation about the components just in Part 3 when you are comparing their performances as part of your evaluation if there was a significant difference between the two that you can’t fully explain just by earnings.
There is no list of ratios you must use but you need to be sensible in your choice and anything that you feel advances the analysis is appropriate (provided it is explained). For example the quick ratio is useless for an airline but passenger load factors (whether the aircraft fly with 95% of seats full or 50% full) could explain a significant difference in turnover and GP.
October 30, 2014 at 1:41 pm #206835Hi. I’m kind of confused as to what extent should i take referencing? I mean lets say i wanna comment on recievable days that they are decreasing and could be as a result of tighter policies and early payment incentives(since i can’t find out for certain whether they’re actually were tighter polcies through secondary data) but now this is common knowledge, am I required to give reference to this comment as well?
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