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Inclusion / exclusion of cost in cost accounts

Forums › FIA Forums › MA2 Managing Costs and Finance Forums › Inclusion / exclusion of cost in cost accounts

  • This topic has 7 replies, 2 voices, and was last updated 11 years ago by maan87.
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  • March 13, 2014 at 6:39 pm #162306
    maan87
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    Hi, john sir,
    john sir plz guide me in following two questions. i could not totally understand these. i solved the question 2 by many ways but could not found answer. plz guide

    Q#1. which of the following may be included in the cost account but would be exlcluded in financial account ?

    a.factory manager
    b.Depreciation of equipment
    c. distribution expense
    d. notional rent.

    Correct answer is mentioned ‘d’ option. but why ‘d’ is correct? why ‘a’ is not?

    Q#2
    A transport company calculates cost per tonne per km . the following data is available.

    Average load(tonnes) Average distance No of journeys

    4 40 10
    5 60 12
    6 65 8

    Please guide me , waiting for your kind rply

    March 13, 2014 at 8:17 pm #162313
    John Moffat
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    For question 1, choices a b and c are all real costs that are relevant for both cost and financial accounts.
    However, notional rent means ‘pretend’ rent. It is not a real expense and is only there for costing purposes. Because it is not a real expense it is not relevant for financial accounts.

    For question 2, you have not said what the question wants!

    March 16, 2014 at 5:36 pm #162449
    maan87
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    Thanx for ur kind reply but please tell me depreciation of office building is also a notional charge,then why we charge it in financial account. plz also recommend me some material to know it well.

    March 16, 2014 at 5:46 pm #162451
    John Moffat
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    No – depreciation of office buildings is not notional at all. It is a ‘real’ cost.
    However it is not relevant for costing – costing is calculation the cost of producing units, and the cost of offices is not a cost of production!

    I cannot recommend other materials. Why should I? Because our lectures and course notes cover everything you need (including the above) to be able to pass the exam well.

    I assume that you are watching the lectures?

    March 19, 2014 at 7:24 pm #162676
    maan87
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    THANX FOR YOUR KIND REPLY.

    I started to read notes and watching lectures. but john sir one of my teacher i think said that depreciation is always a notional cost. it do not includes actual cashflow. thats why i am confused about the depreciation. plz tell me is it not that depreciation a notional charge? depreciation of factory or office involves actual cash outflow?

    i said recommend me other material because i supposed that it is not available in your notes. i am quite happy with your notes and lectures. just tell me about my question plz. i will be very thankful to u

    March 19, 2014 at 8:01 pm #162688
    John Moffat
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    Although I know what your teacher means, he/she is wrong to say that depreciation is a notional cost. It is a real cost.

    The whole purpose of depreciation is to spread the cost of an asset over its useful life.

    If I spend 10,000 on a machine that is going to last 5 years, then it really is costing me 10,000 (it is not a ‘pretend’ or notional cost). However instead of charging the cost all in one year, we spread it and maybe charge 2,000 every year for 5 years. Again, it is a real cost.

    And of course there is an actual cash outflow – we paid out 10,000 for the machine. But again we spread it over the expected life.

    March 19, 2014 at 8:37 pm #162690
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    wow , i m lucky that i m on open tuition and u replied me i m lucky

    March 19, 2014 at 8:43 pm #162693
    maan87
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    oh, you are great john sir, i can not remain with out praising you. i completely got it. now it is clear for me and it also makes a sense. But john once i think , i read it that depreciation is notional charge and that made me confused i think. but what was the reason that teacher said it is notional, is there a reason or something else? whatever i got your concept. thanx again

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