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SBRimpairment test for CGU

Ffairlygladys12y ago
Hi Sir, For impairment of CGU, should I use Total asset or Total equity as FV of net asset? DEC11 - use total equity (879) DEC12 - use total asset (1,130) Thanks
Wwarren9212y ago#1
@fairlygladys You have the answer in your question For impairment of CGU, should I use Total asset or Total equity as FV of NET ASSET? What is Total Equity Total Equity = Total Assets - Total Liabilities= NET ASSETS so in essence Equity=net assets You did not provided the question extract here but in most of the questions of groups you can see impairment is calculated by using this method and fair value of net assets is calculated somewhat like that Share Capital Share Premium Other Components of Equity Fair value of adjustment (if any) =fair value of net assets.
Ffairlygladys12y ago#2
Hi, Extract as below Dec11 Goodwill" 60 FV adj: 10 Recoverable: 1099 Total equity: 1079 Total equity + liability: 1601 Impairment:60+10+1079-1099=50 Dec12 Goodwill: 23 FV adj: 36 Recoverable : 604 Total equity: 364 Total equity + liability: 595 Impairment:23+595+36-604=50 Appreciate your reply
Wwarren9212y ago#3
Thank you for the extracts Impairment occurs when the recoverable value of the asset falls below the carrying value. When calculating goodwill impairment in a sub we will look at the carrying value of the sub and compare it with the recoverable value to calculate the impairment. and what does the subsidiary carries as its carrying value? the answer is the net assets and goodwill Carrying Value of the sub=total net assets before impairment + Goodwill before impairment Impairment (BALANCING FIGURE) Recoverable Value For your December 2011 extracts Carrying value of the sub = [1089+60] (net assets at year end just before impair+gw) Impairment (balance)=50 Recoverable value=1099 So Goodwill at acquisition =60 Impairment (50) Goodwill at year end 10 For your December 12 extracts Carrying value of Heeny [631 + 23]=654 Impairment (balance)=50 Recoverable value = 604 Goodwill at acq = 23 Impairment (50) [of which 27 relates to intangibles goodwill can never be negative]
Ffairlygladys12y ago#4
Can I know why are we not using 364 for heeny? Is it the 2 set of recoverable amount at different time, Dec 12 at year end so we use 595 while Dec 11 right after acquisition so we use1079?
Wwarren9212y ago#5
For December 2011: Carrying value is quite literal What two things do we carry as regards the subsidiary we carry net assets and we carry goodwill. Now what was the goodwill at acquisition 12 months ago [60 for dec 11 question] at the year end 12 months later before the impairment what is it still now = 60 before the impairment what about the net assets, at the point in time when we are doing the impairment review as always we are doing the impairment review at the year end so how bigger the net assets in this entity at that year end are 1089. Carrying Value [1089+60] Impairment 50 Recoverable value =1099 That is the kind of logic that you should be looking. However regarding your question from december 2012, it looks like it has something to do with the last sentence of point 2 in December 2012. [Both Bower and Heeny were impairment tested at 30 November 2012. The recoverable amounts of both cash generating units as stated in the individual financial statements at 30 November 2012 were Bower, $1,425 million, and Heeny, $604 million, respectively. The directors of Minny felt that any impairment of assets was due to the poor performance of the intangible assets. The recoverable amount has been determined without consideration of liabilities which all relate to the financing of operations.] What does it mean by: The recoverable amount has been determined without consideration of liabilities which all relate to the financing of operations to me it looks like the recoverable amount only includes assets and needs to be compared with assets and not nets assets. But I will look for its more clear answer and comeback to you.
Ffairlygladys12y ago#6
Thanks dear, you're very helpful. Very clear and precise, I understand finally
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