• Skip to primary navigation
  • Skip to main content
  • Skip to primary sidebar
Free ACCA & CIMA online courses from OpenTuition

Free ACCA & CIMA online courses from OpenTuition

Free Notes, Lectures, Tests and Forums for ACCA and CIMA exams

  • ACCA
  • CIMA
  • FIA
  • OBU
  • Books
  • Forums
  • Ask AI
  • Search
  • Register
  • Login
  • ACCA Forums
  • Ask ACCA Tutor
  • CIMA Forums
  • Ask CIMA Tutor
  • FIA
  • OBU
  • Buy/Sell Books
  • All Forums
  • Latest Topics

20% off ACCA & CIMA Books

OpenTuition recommends the new interactive BPP books for March and June 2025 exams.
Get your discount code >>

impairment test for CGU

Forums › ACCA Forums › ACCA SBR Strategic Business Reporting Forums › impairment test for CGU

  • This topic has 7 replies, 2 voices, and was last updated 10 years ago by fairlygladys.
Viewing 8 posts - 1 through 8 (of 8 total)
  • Author
    Posts
  • May 30, 2014 at 12:48 pm #171901
    fairlygladys
    Member
    • Topics: 9
    • Replies: 33
    • ☆

    Hi Sir,
    For impairment of CGU, should I use Total asset or Total equity as FV of net asset?
    DEC11 – use total equity (879)
    DEC12 – use total asset (1,130)

    Thanks

    May 31, 2014 at 10:42 pm #172232
    warren92
    Member
    • Topics: 4
    • Replies: 50
    • ☆☆


    @fairlygladys

    You have the answer in your question

    For impairment of CGU, should I use Total asset or Total equity as FV of NET ASSET?

    What is Total Equity

    Total Equity = Total Assets – Total Liabilities= NET ASSETS

    so in essence Equity=net assets

    You did not provided the question extract here but in most of the questions of groups you can see impairment is calculated by using this method and fair value of net assets is calculated somewhat like that

    Share Capital
    Share Premium
    Other Components of Equity
    Fair value of adjustment (if any)

    =fair value of net assets.

    June 1, 2014 at 1:37 am #172238
    fairlygladys
    Member
    • Topics: 9
    • Replies: 33
    • ☆

    Hi,
    Extract as below
    Dec11
    Goodwill” 60
    FV adj: 10
    Recoverable: 1099
    Total equity: 1079
    Total equity + liability: 1601
    Impairment:60+10+1079-1099=50

    Dec12
    Goodwill: 23
    FV adj: 36
    Recoverable : 604
    Total equity: 364
    Total equity + liability: 595
    Impairment:23+595+36-604=50

    Appreciate your reply

    June 1, 2014 at 5:48 am #172249
    warren92
    Member
    • Topics: 4
    • Replies: 50
    • ☆☆

    Thank you for the extracts

    Impairment occurs when the recoverable value of the asset falls below the carrying value.

    When calculating goodwill impairment in a sub we will look at the carrying value of the sub and compare it with the recoverable value to calculate the impairment.

    and what does the subsidiary carries as its carrying value?
    the answer is the net assets and goodwill

    Carrying Value of the sub=total net assets before impairment + Goodwill before impairment

    Impairment (BALANCING FIGURE)

    Recoverable Value

    For your December 2011 extracts

    Carrying value of the sub = [1089+60] (net assets at year end just before impair+gw)
    Impairment (balance)=50
    Recoverable value=1099

    So
    Goodwill at acquisition =60
    Impairment (50)
    Goodwill at year end 10

    For your December 12 extracts

    Carrying value of Heeny [631 + 23]=654
    Impairment (balance)=50
    Recoverable value = 604

    Goodwill at acq = 23
    Impairment (50) [of which 27 relates to intangibles goodwill can never be negative]

    June 1, 2014 at 6:11 am #172250
    fairlygladys
    Member
    • Topics: 9
    • Replies: 33
    • ☆

    Can I know why are we not using 364 for heeny?
    Is it the 2 set of recoverable amount at different time, Dec 12 at year end so we use 595 while Dec 11 right after acquisition so we use1079?

    June 1, 2014 at 10:56 pm #172491
    warren92
    Member
    • Topics: 4
    • Replies: 50
    • ☆☆

    For December 2011:

    Carrying value is quite literal

    What two things do we carry as regards the subsidiary we carry net assets and we carry goodwill.

    Now what was the goodwill at acquisition 12 months ago [60 for dec 11 question]
    at the year end 12 months later before the impairment what is it still now = 60 before the impairment

    what about the net assets, at the point in time when we are doing the impairment review as always we are doing the impairment review at the year end so how bigger the net assets in this entity at that year end are 1089.

    Carrying Value [1089+60]
    Impairment 50
    Recoverable value =1099

    That is the kind of logic that you should be looking.

    However regarding your question from december 2012, it looks like it has something to do with the last sentence of point 2 in December 2012.

    [Both Bower and Heeny were impairment tested at 30 November 2012. The recoverable amounts of both cash
    generating units as stated in the individual financial statements at 30 November 2012 were Bower,
    $1,425 million, and Heeny, $604 million, respectively. The directors of Minny felt that any impairment of assets
    was due to the poor performance of the intangible assets. The recoverable amount has been determined without
    consideration of liabilities which all relate to the financing of operations.]

    What does it mean by: The recoverable amount has been determined without
    consideration of liabilities which all relate to the financing of operations

    to me it looks like the recoverable amount only includes assets and needs to be compared with assets and not nets assets. But I will look for its more clear answer and comeback to you.

    June 3, 2014 at 6:29 pm #173362
    warren92
    Member
    • Topics: 4
    • Replies: 50
    • ☆☆

    After asking from tutors and reading articles all I can say is that here the recoverable amount is the recoverable amount of the assets only, not the net assets (ie assets-liabilities). That’s why you compare this recoverable amount to the assets + goodwill, not net assets + goodwill.

    Otherwise you could deduct the liabilities from the recoverable amount and compare this new amount to net assets + goodwill this will give you the same answer.

    I looked at an article from deloitte and it says:

    ”Allocating assets and liabilities to CGUs:

    The allocation of assets and liabilities to a CGU, so as to establish the carrying amount of the CGU, should be determined on a basis consistent with the way the recoverable amount
    of the CGU is determined (IAS 36: 75).”

    To me it looks like:

    When it says in the question that ”The recoverable amount has been determined without consideration of liabilities which all relate to the financing of operations”

    So we should also determine the carrying amount without consideration of liabilities which all related to the financing of operation in order to be consistent with the way the recoverable amount is determined.

    https://www.deloitte.com/assets/Dcom-Nigeria/Local%20Assets/Documents/IFRS%20Watch/IFRS%20Watch%20-%20Issue%2010.pdf

    June 4, 2014 at 9:31 am #173555
    fairlygladys
    Member
    • Topics: 9
    • Replies: 33
    • ☆

    Thanks dear, you’re very helpful. Very clear and precise, I understand finally

  • Author
    Posts
Viewing 8 posts - 1 through 8 (of 8 total)
  • You must be logged in to reply to this topic.
Log In

Primary Sidebar

Donate
If you have benefited from our materials, please donate

ACCA News:

ACCA My Exam Performance for non-variant

Applied Skills exams is available NOW

ACCA Options:  “Read the Mind of the Marker” articles

Subscribe to ACCA’s Student Accountant Direct

ACCA CBE 2025 Exams

How was your exam, and what was the exam result?

BT CBE exam was.. | MA CBE exam was..
FA CBE exam was.. | LW CBE exam was..

Donate

If you have benefited from OpenTuition please donate.

PQ Magazine

Latest Comments

  • Ojoggo on The Statement of Financial Position and Income Statement (part a) – ACCA Financial Accounting (FA) lectures
  • hhys on PM Chapter 4 Questions Environmental Management Accounting
  • singhjyoti on Conceptual Framework – ACCA SBR lecture
  • John Moffat on Time Series Analysis – ACCA Management Accounting (MA)
  • azubair on Time Series Analysis – ACCA Management Accounting (MA)

Copyright © 2025 · Support · Contact · Advertising · OpenLicense · About · Sitemap · Comments · Log in