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Impairment of goodwill

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  • February 15, 2015 at 1:08 pm #228437
    ajmals28
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    Dear all, I’ve got the below mentioned practical problem regarding impairment of goodwill.

    Scenario:
    Parent A investments in subsidiary B. Total investment, Cu 100 with goodwill Cu 20. The subsidiary is loss making and therefore indicates of an impairment subsequently. In computing this, the NRV (value in use) is compared with the carrying value of CGUs.

    My understanding of adjustment
    Since goodwill is a group entry, any impairment upto the goodwill amount will be adjusted to the group profit. Adjustments above this amount will impact the “investments” of the parent’s stand alone financials, if I am not mistaken.

    My problem is, what will be the carrying value of investment to be compared with NRV?

    And is my understanding of adjustments correct?

    Please feel free to share your opinions. Also feel free to ignore if not interested.

    Regards
    Ajmal

    March 4, 2015 at 9:55 am #231210
    Ruby
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    Hi, I would like to share my understanding with you regarding this scenario.
    But first you need to know what is the group policy in measuring NCI. (At fair value or proportion of sub’s net assets?

    1) My understanding of adjustment
    Since goodwill is a group entry, any impairment upto the goodwill amount will be adjusted to the group profit. Adjustments above this amount will impact the “investments” of the parent’s stand alone financials, if I am not mistaken.

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    WHAT I THINK:
    Yes, partly correct. If the group’s policy is to value NCI at propotion of Sub’s net asset, then ALL the goodwill as well as ALL G/W impairment is attributable to PARENT ONLY. In this case, in the Retain Earnings of parent will be decreased dy the amount of impairment loss.

    However, if NCI is measure at Fair value, it means Good Will is in full (100%), and any impairment loss will be shared between Parent and NCI with their holdings. NOT all impairment is to parent company.
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    2)My problem is, what will be the carrying value of investment to be compared with NRV?

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    WHAT I THINK:
    In order to calculate the impairment loss, you will need to compare the CARRYING VALUE of the sub with its RECOVERABLE AMOUNT (which is higher of: Fair value less cost to sell, and Value in use)

    The carrying value of investment to be compared with its recoverable amount (which you refer to NRV) is: Subsidiary’s Net asset at year end + Good will

    I hope this helps. Please let me know if you need to discuss further 🙂

    Regards,

    Ruby

    March 4, 2015 at 10:55 am #231220
    ajmals28
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    Hi Ruby,

    As pointed out (which I failed to address) the policy states goodwill is measured at FV so I am in agreement with your clarifications.

    Thanks
    Ajmal

    March 4, 2015 at 11:28 am #231223
    Ruby
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    Yep, if NCI at FV then impairment loss is shared between Parent and NCI.

    I’m planing to take P2 in June, hope we can help each other out 🙂

    March 4, 2015 at 12:07 pm #231227
    ajmals28
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    Yeah sure 🙂 all the best with P2! that and P4 are the best papers in ACCA

    March 27, 2015 at 1:23 am #239049
    MD. HASAN IBNE JAHAN
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    wow!!excellent way to share our knowledge and coming up with our own problems….planning to sit for p2 this june,will be in touch with u guys.thnx a lot and very best wishes.

    April 7, 2015 at 9:59 am #240389
    Anonymous
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    Hi all

    I have an issue with an exercise belown. I have problems understanding impairment of goodwill. Can you break it down for me slowly so that I can get it! Thanks 🙂

    Financial position 31 Dec 2007 for H group co:

    H ltd S ltd T ltd

    45,000 shares in S 65,000
    30,000 shares in T 55,000
    Sundry Assets 280,000 133,000 100,000
    Total 345,000 188,000 100,000

    Equity Share Cap 100,000 60,000 50,000
    Retained Earnings 45,000 28,000 25,000
    Liabilities 200,000 100,000 25,000

    Total 345,000 188,000 100,000

    The inter-company shareholdings were acquired on 1 jan 2001 when retained earnings of S were 10,000 and those of T were 8,000. At that date, the fair value of NCI in S was 20,000. The fair value of the total NCI(direct and indirect) in T was 50,000.
    1. Prepare Fin Pos, assuming goodwill has been fully impaired.

    Please try and explain this goodwill ipmairment if anyone can.

    April 8, 2015 at 7:45 am #240486
    Anonymous
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    Sorry guys. I didnt read the instructions. I solved it and it was quite easy. I dont know why I got confused. Ignore!!!!

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