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Impairment loss

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  • This topic has 10 replies, 2 voices, and was last updated 8 years ago by MikeLittle.
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  • October 17, 2016 at 6:08 am #343818
    catherineng
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    Hi, what is the impairment loss for litigation and claims? The outstanding balance of legal expense would become greater than before?

    Could you explain with examples why there is an impairment loss on the claims (it is not the asset type account), thanks

    October 17, 2016 at 7:59 am #343930
    MikeLittle
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    Catherine, you’re clearly talking about a printed solution that you have read and don’t understand

    Unfortunately, I have no idea which question it is to which you refer and, until I have that question in front of me, I can be no help

    Give me a sporting chance and tell me an exam reference (eg June 2014) or, if you can’t do that, at least give me the name of the question and I’ll see if I can find it on the internet

    October 17, 2016 at 9:30 am #344062
    catherineng
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    Mike,

    It is not from past paper. But i was wonder to see it from the other sources of material.

    This is the extract from the material:-

    “The auditor should consider whether management has recognised any impairment loss in the financial statements for litigation and claims. If not, the auditor should consider whether it is necessary to do so. The auditor should perform audit procedures such as those described in the below.

    – obtain details of all impairment losses which have been included in the financial statements and all contingencies that have been disclosed.

    – consider the nature of the entity’s business. would you expect to see any other e.g. impairment losses warranties?

    – determine for each material impairment loss whether it is probable that a transfer of economic benefits will be required to settle the obligation through the following procedures: considering the likelihood of reimbursement” …….

    Thank you

    October 17, 2016 at 5:45 pm #344388
    MikeLittle
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    Strange expression to use when talking about provisioning

    Is this from an official publisher or some friend of yours?

    The answer is suggesting audit steps to confirm the reasonableness and completeness of the entity’s provisions

    I would certainly not have used the expression “impairment loss”

    I’d be interested to hear the identity of the source

    October 19, 2016 at 5:15 am #344882
    catherineng
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    official publisher – ” business assurance”

    October 19, 2016 at 8:46 am #344932
    MikeLittle
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    Hmm.

    The interpretation that I place on the expression ‘impairment loss’ is the need to increase a provision in the financial statements this year when compared with the provision amount brought forward from last year

    And I still find it a strange way of describing the need to increase a provision!

    October 19, 2016 at 10:27 am #344955
    MikeLittle
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    Catherine, I was just looking through the financial annual report of RBS bank – here’s the link) https://investors.rbs.com/~/media/Files/R/RBS-IR/results-center/annual-report-2015.pdf – and on page 100 I find the bank’s policy concerning impairment losses!

    So I have to confess that it isn’t apparently so unusual!

    Still, it’s a funny way to describe an increase in a provision!

    October 20, 2016 at 3:56 am #345093
    catherineng
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    thanks a lot, Mike

    October 20, 2016 at 8:17 am #345119
    catherineng
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    If the recoverability of loan receivable (banking industry) is deteriorating, would it be at high risk for the following assertions?

    1) valuation of loan receivable as there is at risk of understatement of bad debt
    2) existence of loan receivable as the recorded debtor become go bankrupt and they may not be existed at the year end

    Do i have any misinterpretation?

    Thanks

    October 20, 2016 at 9:18 am #345144
    MikeLittle
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    Isn’t the second one the same as the first?

    “Risk of understatement of bad debt” is surely the same as “debtor is bankrupt (and should therefore be included within bad debts written off)”

    October 20, 2016 at 9:19 am #345145
    MikeLittle
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    Even if they bad debts write off is not understated / under calculated, it could be that the provision of allowances / doubtful debts is understated (and that, I think, is what is being referred to as “impairment losses”)

    OK?

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