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IFRS 9 expected loss model

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  • This topic has 7 replies, 2 voices, and was last updated 9 years ago by MikeLittle.
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  • October 5, 2015 at 8:55 am #274996
    Kip Fatt
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    According to the open tuition note pg 155 i don’t really understand why the journal entry would be as follows:
    Dr cash
    Cr Income
    Cr Asset

    Could you explain further ?

    October 6, 2015 at 1:42 pm #275177
    MikeLittle
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    Although we are receiving $2,400 this year there is an expectation that, in the long run, the return will only be 4% and not 6%. By writing down the asset instead of taking the full $2,400 to statement of profit or loss we are anticipating the reduction in the value of the asset as a result of the forecast difficulties that our borrower will face in the future

    Is that better?

    October 6, 2015 at 3:14 pm #275196
    Kip Fatt
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    Alright, thank you

    October 6, 2015 at 3:44 pm #275202
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    You’re welcome

    October 8, 2015 at 4:36 am #275484
    Kip Fatt
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    why we should credit the assets instead of recognised in allowance account?

    Isn’t because of the “2%” is confirmed gone, then we should direct charge to asset account?

    October 8, 2015 at 9:17 am #275501
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    Hmmmm, good question.

    I think that I can only suggest that it’s a question of prudence / caution. As accountants, we are taught to “always look on the dark side of life” (de dum, de dum, de dum de dum de dum) (sorry – I couldn’t resist it!)

    That’s why we value inventory at the lower of cost and net realisable value. It’s why we provide for a liability that is more likely than not (say 51%) to crystallise but we only disclose an asset that is say 94% probable

    In the above scenario (I’ve forgotten the precise wording of the question) doesn’t the question indicate probability of non-collectability? And doesn’t it lead you to thinking that the probability is greater than 50% that we won’t collect?

    October 8, 2015 at 9:51 am #275508
    Kip Fatt
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    This is the question
    The actual and effective rate of return is 6% but there is an element of doubt about the
    continuing viability of the investee entities and, although there has been no default this year, it is considered likely that the actual rate of return in the long run will be only 4%.

    the key word is “considered likely” right?

    October 8, 2015 at 10:34 am #275513
    MikeLittle
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    Absolutely – “considered likely” is telling you that it’s more likely than not. So it’s appropriate to acknowledge the anticipated reduction in the asset’s value by way of a reduction in that asset’s carrying value

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