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IFRS 15

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  • May 8, 2018 at 9:25 pm #450675
    mehazia
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    Is the input output method of measuring progress practical part important from the viewpoint of the exam?

    May 14, 2018 at 2:26 pm #451863
    Kim Smith
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    I think you should know the difference (output method recognises revenue based on direct measurement of output to date relative to the remainder of the contract – input recognises satisfaction based on inputs/efforts relative to total expected inputs/efforts) but for practical exam purposes you would use whatever information you are given (probably without thinking whether it is output or input method). For example, you could be given % completion measured by a surveyor/appraiser or units produced to date (outputs) or costs incurred/hours spent (inputs).

    September 2, 2023 at 8:30 am #691167
    Nursulton21
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    Hello!
    I have had some issues regarding output and input methods
    In one example the cost of sales is taken as “costs to date”.Like in this one

    On 1 October 20X8 Pricewell entered into a contract to construct a bridge over a river.
    The performance obligation will be satisfied over time. The agreed price of the bridge
    is $50 million and construction was expected to be completed on 30 September 20Y0.
    The $14.3 million in the trial balance is:
    $000
    Materials, labour and overheads 12,000
    Specialist plant acquired 1 October 20X8 8,000
    Payment from customer (5,700)
    ––––––
    14,300
    ––––––
    The sales value of the work done at 31 March 20X9 has been agreed at $22 million and
    the estimated cost to complete (excluding plant depreciation) is $10 million. The
    specialist plant will have no residual value at the end of the contract and should be
    depreciated on a monthly basis. Pricewell recognises progress towards satisfaction of
    the performance obligation on the outputs basis as determined by the agreed work to
    date compared to the total contract price

    Answer for this question

    Progress
    Work completed to date has been agreed at $22 million so the contract is
    44% complete ($22m/$50m).

    (iii) Statement of profit or loss
    Revenue (44% × $50m) 22,000
    Cost of sales: per TB 12,000
    Plant depreciation (W4) 2,000
    –––––– (14,000)
    ––––––
    Profit to date 8,000

    And in another example where ouput method is applied, the cost of sales is the percentage(work certified) of total costs, not costs to date

    Henley Co entered into a $10 million contract to build an asset for
    a customer on 1 April 20X4. The contract is expected to take 2
    years and a surveyor has assessed the value of work done as $4
    million. The contract will cost $8 million and Henley Co has spent
    $4 million to date. Henley Co measures progress towards
    completion using an output method, comparing the work certified
    to date to the total contract price.
    What profit should Henley Co recognise for the year ending
    31 December 20X4?

    Answer
    $800,000 – Using the output method, the contract progress is
    assessed at 40% ($4m/$10m). Therefore 40% of the revenue and
    expenses should be recognised in the statement of profit or loss
    during the year. This would give revenue of $4 million and cost of
    sales of $3.2 million (40% of $8m), therefore giving a total profit of
    $800,000.

    Why dont they use costs to date as cost of sales?

    March 5, 2024 at 8:36 pm #702101
    fredymaila
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    Costs to date not in excess for a particular year would be cost of sales, particularly when you started the contract in that year.

    In reality,
    Cost of sales
    = Costs to date at year end LESS
    Costs to date at start of the year

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