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  • This topic has 4 replies, 2 voices, and was last updated 10 years ago by MikeLittle.
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  • September 25, 2014 at 12:52 pm #196411
    asadrana
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    here i have a question like this

    the actuarial value of T pension plan showed a surplus at 1 dec 2010 of $72m,representing by the fair value of the assets of $250m, the present value of the defined benefit obligation of $200m and net unrecognised actuarial losses of $22m.The corrider approach is used by the co.

    the answer of this question is:

    PV of obligation at 1 dec 2010 200
    FV of assets at 1 dec 2010 (250)
    Actuarial losses (22)

    the resulting answer is (72)

    my real answer is why unrecognised loss of $22m is added in fv of assets or less from pv of obligations…..???

    September 25, 2014 at 3:08 pm #196432
    MikeLittle
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    Because it’s a debit balance!

    Why (in F3!) is a debit entry either recording an item of expense (bad news) or recording the acquisition of an asset (good news)?

    All assets get converted into expenses over the period of their lifetimes

    Now, in case you didn’t know (and I’m sure that you did!) the corridor approach is no longer allowed and the account “net unrecognised gains / losses account” is no longer in existence. Whichever question you are looking at, the answer should have been re-written

    September 25, 2014 at 10:30 pm #196460
    asadrana
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    Thanx….,, MikeLittle

    September 25, 2014 at 11:19 pm #196461
    asadrana
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    Mike i need some more detail
    actuarial loss arise when there is actual obligation is more than expected.so if the resulting difference is, say $22m.why we did not add in opening obligation of $200m rather than add in fv of asset $250m.

    September 26, 2014 at 8:28 am #196482
    MikeLittle
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    An actuarial loss (or gain) can arise as follows:

    where the actuary measures the present value of the obligation at an amount greater than the carrying value (or an amount less than the carrying value)

    where the actuary measures the value of the plan assets at an amount less than carrying value ( or an amount greater than carrying value)

    in summary, the actuary can tell us that the value of the obligation or the value of the assets is greater or less than the carrying value

    In your post, the $22m actuarial loss will be added to the account “Present Value of Future Obligation” and charged (debited) to the profit or loss account

    Is that ok?

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