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How to calculate FV of NCI if not given in the question

Forums › ACCA Forums › ACCA SBR Strategic Business Reporting Forums › How to calculate FV of NCI if not given in the question

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  • May 16, 2010 at 1:16 am #43906
    saw0909
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    Hi,

    Anyone can help me? If the question didnt mention Fair Value of NCI and we are required to use full goodwill method? How do i calculate fair value of NCI? I’m confusing…

    For example, A acquired 80% of B on 1/1/09 for $100m. Fair value of net assets of B were $39m.

    May 17, 2010 at 5:52 pm #60402
    Nat
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    You should calculate the goodwill by the old method (using Net assets share) if FV of NCI is not given because both methods are now allowed.

    But as far as I understood in the question on exam it will be stated somehow the way of goodwill calculation.

    May 17, 2010 at 8:52 pm #60403
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    The FV of NCI for full goodwill method will be given in the exams.

    In your example its possible to calculate FV of NCI using % of NCI and FV of Net Assets. But this method is called Proportinate, Net Godwill or Partial Goodwill.

    FV of Consideration 80% 100
    FV of NCI 20% 7.8 (20% x 39)
    FV of Business 100% 107.8
    FV of NA (39)
    Goodwill at Acq 68.8

    May 22, 2010 at 2:31 am #60404
    saw0909
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    Thanks alot

    May 27, 2010 at 5:59 am #60405
    MikeLittle
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    Look at the course notes for F7 to see the various ways in which nci goodwill can be calculated

    May 14, 2014 at 7:22 am #168751
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    If parent acquired 100% of subsidiaries then how can we find FV of NCI

    for example: Pco acquired 100% of the share capital of Sco on 1 September 2005 for $144,000, on which day the retained earnings of Beta were $34,560 and the fair value of the non-current assets was $36,000 more than their carrying value.

    May 14, 2014 at 11:13 am #168772
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    Salama there is no NCI for 100% owned Subsidiary. That sounds like you are doing a question from the BPP Textbook, it will have the answer you need. But there can be no minority interest if the company holds 100% of the shares.

    May 15, 2014 at 2:23 pm #168905
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    BS date (SC+RE+OCE+other adjustment)*NCI%+NCI goodwill

    June 20, 2014 at 8:13 am #177271
    princess
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    Hi, can you please help me to find goodwill for this question,
    Jolly acquired 90% of the share capital of Roger on 1 January 2010 for $51,840. Roger was incorporated on that date.On 31 December 2012 the company’s Statements of Financial Position were as follows:
    Jolly Roger
    Non-currentassets $168,000 $ 86,400
    Investment in Roger at cost$51,840
    Current assets $64,800  $36,000
    Share capital – $1 shares $148,800 $57,600
    Retained earnings $107,040 $46,800
    Current liabilities $28,800  $18,000
    What amount should appear for goodwill in the consolidated statement of financial position?
    Zero,
    $51,840
    $46,800
    $57,600

    June 20, 2014 at 12:06 pm #177295
    szparag
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    Salama,
    The formula for calculation of goodwill is:
    consideration + NCI – FV of net assets = goodwill

    Here you have:
    * consideration = 51.840 (the amount paid by Jolly)
    * FV of net assets = share capital + RE at the date of acquisition. Here at the date of acquisition Roger was incorporated, so the RE were 0 at that date, but the share capital was the same as it is now, ie 57.600
    * NCI – as there is no FV of NCI given you calculate is as a % of the FV of net assets; so it will be 10% * 57.600 = 5.760

    So we have: 51.840 + 5.760 – 57.600 = 0
    There you go 🙂

    June 20, 2014 at 12:26 pm #177298
    MikeLittle
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    Salama, are you really a P2 student?

    The questions you are asking would embarrass an F7 student and would not be far beyond the capacities of an F3 student!

    June 20, 2014 at 1:07 pm #177304
    princess
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    I am F3 student, actually I ask this question because one of my friend argue me with this question. And Thanx all for your kind help.

    July 10, 2014 at 6:27 am #178516
    MikeLittle
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    If Salama is an F3 student, why is he/she posting an F3 question on a P2 forum?

    Very strange!

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