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How does the impairment of goodwill affect nci

Forums › Ask ACCA Tutor Forums › Ask the Tutor ACCA FR Exams › How does the impairment of goodwill affect nci

  • This topic has 7 replies, 3 voices, and was last updated 11 years ago by MikeLittle.
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  • April 7, 2014 at 11:39 am #164614
    3mr
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    In what cases does impairment of goodwill affect NCI?
    In case of statement of financial position or P/L.
    And in cases of valuation of NCI at either fair value or proportionate share of the fair value of the subsidiary’s net assets.

    April 7, 2014 at 11:54 am #164616
    zaca
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    If you use the “traditional method”
    so, the impairment will reduce the value of goodwill and reduce the retain earning of the Parent, regardless of the NCI

    IF you use the “fair value method”
    so, the impairment will reduce the value of goodwill, and
    1) reduce the retained earning of the Parent
    2) reduce the value of NCI.

    Example: A own 90% B
    Goodwill at acquisition day is 10mil, at the year end, they point out the goodwill only have value of 5 mil, so, the impairment goodwill = 5mil
    so the goodwill present in consolidate f/s is 5mil
    The post profit B earn is year is 100mil
    So 90% = 90 mil go to the retain earning of Parent A
    and 10%= 10mil go to the retain earning of NCI
    impairment goodwill = 5 mil

    so it will charge 5*90% = 4.5mil in the retained earning of A ,

    so the group retain earning = the retained earning of A at year end + the 90% post profit attribute to A – 4.5mil impairment GW

    and the 0.5 mil will be charge to NCI, the value of NCI = the fair value of NCI at acquisition day + 10% post-profit attribute – 0.5 impairment GW

    April 7, 2014 at 2:27 pm #164634
    3mr
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    I got it thank you.
    But what if the examiner didn’t state the method used in measuring NCI in preparing statement of P/L. Which method should I use?

    April 7, 2014 at 3:37 pm #164649
    MikeLittle
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    Amr Fetiha, there will never be a situation where the examiner doesn’t tell you.

    Zaca, these pages are titled “Ask the tutor” I bit my tongue when you answered Cara’s post, but this second time you have transgressed, I feel it necessary to remind you that you are NOT the OpenTuition tutor and the questions are therefore NOT addressed to you

    The site welcomes the involvement of students in the general forum and actively encourages such involvement but please, in the future, restrict your posts to answering questions in that general forum

    Many thanks

    April 8, 2014 at 6:48 am #164702
    3mr
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    Okay. how to deal with impairment of goodwill in P/L?

    April 8, 2014 at 11:11 am #164748
    MikeLittle
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    The FULL amount of the impairment comes out of the consolidated statement of income.

    The nci entitlement to their share of this year’s subsidiary profits is calculated in working W4b

    OK?

    April 8, 2014 at 11:58 am #164760
    3mr
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    Ok.

    April 8, 2014 at 3:53 pm #164783
    MikeLittle
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    Good!

    🙂

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